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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 13:44:01 GMT
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Post by Radchenister on Aug 1, 2016 14:18:27 GMT
The sound of grating rims in wet weather is enough to convince me that a four season bike is a sensible N+1 option; I'd also like to ride woody forest trails and up tow paths more often (I do these on the road bike at times but it never feels quite right and can only do the more easy listening surfaces), there are a fair few spots that spring to mind around here that would suit, some of the flatland canals up to Glos that we saw the other day, also trails into the Cotswolds and Wales - I don't want to pay a lot though, there lies the challenge, but then B'TWIN are usually pretty good on that front.
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Post by Radchenister on Aug 1, 2016 14:36:21 GMT
Note: I've just pulled the two posts above from 'who's getting out there' to create this new thread, as I think the topic warrants space of its own - so this is the place to discuss the style of bikes that take road riders to places they wouldn't usually go (on the type of bikes listed in the title).
We can also cover anything else loosely related to getting out and about on two wheels that aren't pure road bikes (although it's not about MTBs really, they can be covered though of course, perhaps if there's transferable tech issues worth noting etc, just that MTBs should not be the main focus of the thread - nothing against them, just that's a whole new topic again).
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Post by joby on Aug 1, 2016 14:38:56 GMT
The sound of grating rims in wet weather is enough to convince me that a four season bike is a sensible N+1 option; I'd also like to ride woody forest trails and up tow paths more often (I do these on the road bike at times but it never feels quite right and can only do the more easy listening surfaces), there are a fair few spots that spring to mind around here that would suit, some of the flatland canals up to Glos that we saw the other day, also trails into the Cotswolds and Wales - I don't want to pay a lot though, there lies the challenge, but then B'TWIN are usually pretty good on that front. I actually quite fancy something like this as my N - something that could be used for year-round commuting, leisure road cycling, a bit of off-road but also hold its own in a sportive on the few occasions that I enter them. The new Sonder Camino from Alpkit looks beautiful.
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Post by Radchenister on Aug 1, 2016 14:40:39 GMT
... and @davefy7 , best post a pic of your new bike in here, with a little bit of blurb about how it's panning out - no rush, perhaps add stuff over time! ... I would be interested to hear how you're finding the tyres, rolling resistance, speed, gearing, comfort, riding position and handling when compared to other bikes you own (/ have owned) for starters.
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Post by Radchenister on Aug 1, 2016 14:43:04 GMT
joby I see that sort of bike at the winter sportives fairly regularly - for me the big issue looks to be cost, circa £1500 spons for a bike that's designed to get a bit mucky is big bucks IMO.
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Post by Paulinblack on Aug 1, 2016 15:01:10 GMT
Please may I have: - A light aluminium frame - Carbon forks - Mavic Aksium quality wheels - 105 groupset - 11-32t cassette - Disc brakes - Ability for mudguards in the winter - Standard 25mm tyres but capable of 28mm - For use as year round commuter and winter riding - Approx £500 please
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Post by joby on Aug 1, 2016 15:06:08 GMT
joby I see that sort of bike at the winter sportives fairly regularly - me the big issue looks to be cost, circa £1500 spons for a bike that's designed to get a bit mucky is big bucks IMO. I get your point, although it's pretty easy to find mountain bikes at that price point (and some) which are more than designed to get a bit mucky...not sure why an adventure bike should be considered differently?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 15:09:04 GMT
I'm not sure what the maximum tyre size is but it really would be fun if these could be fitted.
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Post by Radchenister on Aug 1, 2016 16:15:12 GMT
I'd think as it's an in-between sort of bike, it shouldn't start exceeding the cost of the others, just because the geometry is different, there's new through hub wheels, different gears and discs. A MTB is clearly set up for off road bias but a hardtail can handle touring and road work with a change to slightly slicker tyres just fine, this set up is also fine for commuting on etc; pure road bikes are clearly about fast road work but the Tribans also have pannier capabilities and fairly wide tyres now, they can do all sorts; they can handle some trail work - the 520 and 540 could deal with most things that one of these bikes does with max size tyres on, it'd have to get near to MTB territory to outstrip the capabilities. It strikes me the main plus is the discs in wet weather / winter and perhaps tyre / mudguard clearance. Whilst this sort of bike falls between the extremes and is a bit more versatile with the slightly wider tyres, it's not such a quantum leap that it should start breaking the bank IMO - we need to be careful we're not just falling for clever 'lifestyle' marketing here. You could buy a 540, a Rockrider and another cheaper winter bike (one lower down the Triban range) for similar money ... or would it be technically possible to adapt a 520 / 540, perhaps add discs and new through hub wheels, at not too excessive a cost ( chas)? Or if not technically viable to do this as current design, and it's all about tyre width, then can B'TWIN modify the designs slightly to achieve the inclusion of wider wheels, tyres and discs in their range without much fuss, plus some different gearing perhaps, if we think that the gearing changes are truly needed / justified? Strikes me the new Triban frame designs are pretty robust and not far off this style of bike now anyway?
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Post by Radchenister on Aug 1, 2016 16:33:51 GMT
Please may I have: - A light aluminium frame - Carbon forks - Mavic Aksium quality wheels - 105 groupset - 11-32t cassette - Disc brakes - Ability for mudguards in the winter - Standard 25mm tyres but capable of 28mm - For use as year round commuter and winter riding - Approx £500 please What front crankset (gearing and number of rings etc)?
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Post by lenodd on Aug 1, 2016 17:23:40 GMT
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Post by Radchenister on Aug 1, 2016 17:42:05 GMT
If B'TWIN / Deca can shift the Ultra at £1,050 (with Ultegra and Cosmics), reckon they should be able to sort a 105 set up with larger format wheels (to Aksium standard) and reasonable standard discs at less money than that; or if not, then there's the problem right there.
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Post by Radchenister on Aug 1, 2016 17:47:26 GMT
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Post by Radchenister on Aug 1, 2016 17:50:40 GMT
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