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Post by fadsarmy on May 19, 2015 9:49:36 GMT
Some chap left a review on the Decathlon site (page 7) stating that the rear brake is not standard and would cause problems upgrading/replacing? How true is this?
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Post by Rocket on May 19, 2015 9:59:48 GMT
Utter Horlicks. 105 direct mount.
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Post by r0b1et on May 19, 2015 10:00:20 GMT
It isn't. It is a Shimano direct mount brake. It might be a bit fiddly, but it'll be fairly standard.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 10:29:48 GMT
Due to its location it may not be as easy to adjust as it would be if it was in the usual location at the seat stays. I have only used the inline barrel adjuster to adjust mine. I haven't really had a good look at the brake itself.
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Post by duplo on May 19, 2015 11:17:03 GMT
Some chap left a review on the Decathlon site (page 7) stating that the rear brake is not standard and would cause problems upgrading/replacing? How true is this? Ignore it, this is the same guy who complained about the crank having a hole through it and replaced it straight away with a slightly heavier 105 crank. #numpty
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Post by ChrisD on May 19, 2015 13:13:46 GMT
The rear mounted brake has been around for the 10 speed 105 5700 groupset (as on the Alur) since Spring 2013 - www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/shimano-introduces-new-aero-105-brakes-31061...and still being produced by Shimano for the new 11 speed 105 5800 groupset which looks set to adorn some of the upcoming BTwin Ultra models I believe, as well as the existing high end Ultra carbon frames currently available in the >Β£1k price range. The BB mounted rear brakes are also available for Ultegra and Dura-Ace groupsets, so I can't see it going away anytime soon. Do a bit of searching for direct mount brakes and see what you think.
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Post by lenodd on May 20, 2015 16:43:03 GMT
So, what's people's experience of this type of brake? Does it collect crud more? Does it brake better? Is it harder to change pads? Why aren't other bike manufacturers doing this?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 17:59:06 GMT
IMHO with the weather we get in the UK it would be a no-no. A crud catcher and a sod to clean and adjust.
Having said that I saw one in the flesh when Decathlon introduced them and it looked the business, tidy and strong. Showroom condition of course, after a few weeks of muck and grime things I believe would be very different if even slightly neglected.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 18:05:00 GMT
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Post by Rocket on May 20, 2015 18:12:55 GMT
The conventional seatstay mounted rear brake on my T3a is in a right old state after a ride in wet conditions. Why are people assuming that a chainstay mounted rear brake is so much worse? There's only so much crud a brake caliper can hold.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 18:12:55 GMT
Bought the Alur in the sale as 599 for 105 seemed a no brainer. I actually love this bike so much I have been riding it more than my Canyon Endurace 8.0, Yes the rear brake picks up a bit a crud but I've found it brakes well is easy to adjust on a stand and rinses clean after a ride just as easily. So no worries. Braking is nice but find it hard to compare really. I'd say don't worry!
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Post by lenodd on May 20, 2015 18:44:30 GMT
The conventional seatstay mounted rear brake on my T3a is in a right old state after a ride in wet conditions. Why are people assuming that a chainstay mounted rear brake is so much worse? There's only so much crud a brake caliper can hold. I'm just looking for personal experience. It looks a bit odd, but I was wondering in use how different it would be to a conventional brake. Ps I'd prefer discs
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Post by lenodd on May 20, 2015 21:09:30 GMT
I've also been thinking the angle of the brake might make a difference - direct mount, dirt sits on it, normal mount - it falls off. (no scientific research obviously!)
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Post by ChrisD on May 20, 2015 21:29:09 GMT
I've also been thinking the angle of the brake might make a difference - direct mount, dirt sits on it, normal mount - it falls off. (no scientific research obviously!) I must live somewhere where the dirt is different as gravity never helps me keep the rear brake clean. Sticks like dirt.
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Post by lenodd on May 21, 2015 6:07:59 GMT
I've also been thinking the angle of the brake might make a difference - direct mount, dirt sits on it, normal mount - it falls off. (no scientific research obviously!) I must live somewhere where the dirt is different as gravity never helps me keep the rear brake clean. Sticks like dirt.Β Yeah, it's probably not an issue at all - still be interested in the alur owners experiences, with regard to maintenance, any running issues. If there's none, the only question I have is, why isn't it more widely adopted? (@jetsetwilly links aside - i never see them on sale in high St bike shops)
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