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Post by r0b1et on May 21, 2015 8:11:19 GMT
Why would it gather more muck? It is further for the wheel to travel from picking up the dirt to reach the bb brake than seat stay brake.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 8:45:49 GMT
Why would it gather more muck? It is further for the wheel to travel from picking up the dirt to reach the bb brake than seat stay brake. I've not got one but could be muck from the back wheel and muck thrown up from the front wheel? But if you go through enough puddles, spray from the front wheel could help wash away muck from the bb brake?
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Post by lenodd on May 21, 2015 8:58:37 GMT
It may all be a red herring, I think people had bad experiences with U brakes on mountain bikes in the past, couple that with the bottom bracket area getting all the cr@p.
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Post by joneve on May 21, 2015 9:01:48 GMT
I've only had mine out in the rain a few times in the 3 weeks I've had it, but enough to gather plenty of crap....And there's, from what I can tell, zero difference in build up of muck vs. the brake being up on the seat stay.
In fact, because of the internal cabling, when you look underneath to clean the bottom bracket area, it's all very "clean" and uncluttered, making it easy to wipe clean.
Time will tell of course, but so far, so good.
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Post by beatnik69 on May 21, 2015 9:15:31 GMT
I have an Alur and I don't think it picks up any more crap that conventional brakes. As northernmamil says, it rinses off. I haven't tried changing pads yet so can't comment on that aspect. It hasn't been more widely adopted because it hasn't been around for long Id say. Nothing to worry about.
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Post by r0b1et on May 21, 2015 9:29:04 GMT
My Argon has similarly mounted rear brake, and behind the fork front brake. in 2 weeks of ownership (and a bit of fiddling), the rear brake is SLIGHTLY more tricky to adjust, and has to be on the stand. The front is a lot more fiddly to adjust.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 10:15:30 GMT
Not all are as fastidious in their cleaning habits and i'm thinking; out of sight out of mind.
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Post by brianevesham on May 21, 2015 10:58:53 GMT
No problems with mine whatsoever. TBH I couldn't tell difference when riding but maybe I'm too slow!
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Post by arranj on May 21, 2015 11:36:00 GMT
Braking when wet is always rubbish, however that said the direct mount brakes are meant to give more braking power.
I can't say they've ever failed to stop me...
The rear brake did pick up a bit of crud when I was cycling in the pouring rain, through a park on a mucky path, however on the road it does no such thing. I just hose the bike down after a mucky ride and then lube it up and it's ready to do again!
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Post by joneve on May 21, 2015 11:38:25 GMT
Braking when wet is always rubbish, however that said the direct mount brakes are meant to give more braking power. I can't say they've ever failed to stop me... The rear brake did pick up a bit of crud when I was cycling in the pouring rain, through a park on a mucky path, however on the road it does no such thing. I just hose the bike down after a mucky ride and then lube it up and it's ready to do again! I failed to stop the other day, but this was no fault of the brakes. The wheels stopped, but I kept on gliding down the road due to the wet!
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Post by arranj on May 21, 2015 11:49:55 GMT
Braking when wet is always rubbish, however that said the direct mount brakes are meant to give more braking power. I can't say they've ever failed to stop me... The rear brake did pick up a bit of crud when I was cycling in the pouring rain, through a park on a mucky path, however on the road it does no such thing. I just hose the bike down after a mucky ride and then lube it up and it's ready to do again! I failed to stop the other day, but this was no fault of the brakes. The wheels stopped, but I kept on gliding down the road due to the wet! Maybe the direct mounts are too powerful for you!! Or you need to buy some tyres that work in the damp
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Post by joneve on May 21, 2015 12:27:28 GMT
I failed to stop the other day, but this was no fault of the brakes. The wheels stopped, but I kept on gliding down the road due to the wet! Maybe the direct mounts are too powerful for you!! Or you need to buy some tyres that work in the damp Pfft! Slicks or bust mate!
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Post by r0b1et on May 21, 2015 13:13:01 GMT
Maybe the direct mounts are too powerful for you!! Or you need to buy some tyres that work in the damp Pfft! Slicks or bust mate! slicks are fine in the wet unless you were >90mph... which, lets face it, you weren't. Doesn't mean the compound can grip in the wet though.
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Post by arranj on May 21, 2015 13:42:17 GMT
Pfft! Slicks or bust mate! slicks are fine in the wet unless you were >90mph... which, lets face it, you weren't. Doesn't mean the compound can grip in the wet though. All about the GP 4000s II / GP 4 Seasons. PEw pew
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Post by r0b1et on May 21, 2015 14:38:19 GMT
Or for the cheapo lovers, Michelin Lithion 2 are excellent.
4 Seasons have pointless (if normal road riding) tread, that just reduced contact patch.
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