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Post by taffytim on Nov 23, 2015 8:48:06 GMT
I've just got a hrm for the edge 500 so Im starting to look at training in a new light.
I saw somewhere that I need to get an idea of what my resting heart rate is by getting my most relaxed heart rate average over 5 mornings.
This morning I got a low of 52bpm, which is nearly a quarter of my peak of 196bpm fromy ride yesterday.
Is this normal? What's a good resting heart rate? For an overweight 36 year old?
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Post by goffski on Nov 23, 2015 9:20:10 GMT
Yep! I'm the same (36) and mine is about the same as that although mine peaks about 187 (not often i get to that).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2015 9:40:54 GMT
Just measured mine while sat at home on the sofa doing some computer work. Getting between 42 and 48bpm. I've been told I have a low resting heart rate for my age (40) based on my companies annual health screening where they test cholesterol, blood pressure and resting heart rate etc.
No idea on peak HR.
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Post by Radchenister on Nov 23, 2015 10:56:46 GMT
That's pretty low for mid morning, after brekkie and coffee and crashing into Monday mine is around 56 - 58 right now. Best test it first thing when waking up, as all sorts will effect it from there. When on a healthy regime and rested properly between rides, my RHR will go down to 40 - 42 BPM but will come up at times as well (it's not quite that low at the mo', as working more than training); all depending on amount of desk job hassle / bad living etc (my lifestyle is never that bad compared to some, although any spell of a few days with good food and booze, late nights and stressy job situations, too much tea and coffee etc, will show an increase). Peak HR is an odd one, mine remains fairly low even when I bury myself (I am getting older I guess but don't think the 220 minus your age thing is really all that applicable, just general), my FTHR is supposed to be 157 and max never really goes over 180 bpm. My buddies tend to be pulsing away quicker on similar efforts when out on rides but it's not really comparable if both of you are doing the same ride at the same pace and coping OK, the figures are just what they are; it's like trying to compare RPM for an in-line four to a V twin on motor bikes, or petrol to diesel on cars, add in the PtoW issues and it becomes pretty meaningless to try and draw comparisons. Once you depart from very general judgement i.e. if your RHR is 75+ in the morning and you tend to be whizzing on the high HR levels / struggling after short efforts on rides, when others are thumping away at their threshold etc, all that really tells you is you might want to watch your lifestyle and get a bit fitter. If your figures are low resting and high on activities but you cope well, it might just mean you're a high revving individual. Similarly, low figures might just mean the heart is moving the requisite volume of blood for the activity levels but at a slower pumping rate. Start training to HR and you can work out your zones a bit more accurately but the initial calculated zone scales aren't really that accurate (if say using the British Cycling on-line calculator like I did), also not comparative from one individual to the next, as like with body types, we have different personal physiology. It is useful to know your way round personal stat's a bit better and can help to focus / give something to think about on the static trainer, which you can then relate back to the road but it's also not something to become a slave to.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2015 14:06:19 GMT
Stick a HRM on overnight. It's really interesting to see how low it gets and how well (or not) you sleep. Mine was down in the low to mid thirties last time I checked. My age is ermm...51. I notice Decathlon are selling base layers with HRM's built into them now. www.decathlon.co.uk/kiprun-hrm-t-shirt-id_8328859.html
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Post by Radchenister on Nov 23, 2015 14:30:21 GMT
Not sure I can face wearing that strap for a whole night (at least not at the tension I usually wear it), might check it monthly once the regime starts proper though (soon).
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Post by taffytim on Nov 23, 2015 21:39:50 GMT
Good to hear Goffski. Im the largest ive been in a while and I was a hilly section that i always struggle with when i hit this bpm high. Luckily it settled a bit lower on my other climbs. I think it might be have gotten a higher reading on the day as i was constantly looking at the reading also.
ok a good insight there Rad cheers.
Dave that sounds interesting, i'll give it a go one night.
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Post by goffski on Nov 24, 2015 9:18:34 GMT
taffytim might might be a little lower than 52, more like in the late 40's. I got up this morning, made a brew got ready to go on the turbo and after a bit of messing about it was about 54bpm. Struggled to take it past 160 this morning but i'm really not a morning person. I have had it as high as 200bpm when i was doing a bit of running but never had it this high while cycling.
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Post by taffytim on Nov 25, 2015 0:34:06 GMT
Highest on todays 60 miler was 187bpm
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Post by jondxxx on Nov 25, 2015 9:28:24 GMT
Read this article recently. Interesting table about half way down. Reassuring to see that I'm excellent at something.
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Post by Radchenister on Nov 25, 2015 9:56:18 GMT
Highest on todays 60 miler was 187bpm So what do you think that indicates then taffytim, just asking out of curiosity?
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Post by kenny1972 on Nov 25, 2015 10:04:58 GMT
I'm 43 and my resting heart rate is on average 52 the max heart I've had was 205 but I usually get up to between 198-202 when I push hard. I can cycle in the 170's for long periods no problem I feel fine and relaxed not out of breath.
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Post by r0b1et on Dec 10, 2015 14:53:22 GMT
I'm 34 (nearly 35), my RHR has been as low as 38 (first thing in the morning before getting up - after a quiet week), but usually high 40s...My max recorded that I believe (so not dried out electrodes) is 188, I can't get above 184 indoors, I am pretty sure I'd be sick if I go higher that 184 inside (being lower indoors isn't unusual).
I'm getting a Vivosmart with integrated HRM for Crimbo... should be interesting to track, and will stop me overtraining (which I've now managed to do twice [both times making myself get ill])
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Post by Pete R on Dec 24, 2015 19:53:37 GMT
It's an interesting topic, but I'm not sure what our resting/max heart rate is telling us. I'm not sure that a lower RHR is necessarily a sign of superior fitness, and I don't know whether a high MHR in relation to age is a sign of it either. All physiologies are different. I'm certainly fitter than I was two years ago, weigh three stone less but my RHR and MHR are pretty similar to what they were before the "new" me came along.
Age 57, MHR 193 until this Sept and now seems to be 186. RHR 34. Was 15st, now 12st (6'1"). The heart being a muscle, I had it suggested to me that mine may just be a small one, so it's stroke rate is higher when pushed. Certainly not out of breath with it at 140/150. It's also interesting how over one long ride this year, by the evening, my pulse settled at about 130 when, for the speed, it would usually have been 150. Probably fatigue, but it felt fine. A fascinating topic.
What can we really tell about ourselves from these figures? I'm not sure.
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Post by Radchenister on Dec 24, 2015 20:41:32 GMT
It is all somewhat genetic and people have their own range but lowering your RHR is an indication of fitness, max HR is what it is, in relation to your physiology, somewhat trainable but won't move around all that much. Your lactate / anaerobic threshold is worth knowing in relation to HR, if you're going to get serious about say doing good sportive times over 3 to 5 hours, then this is the key to fitness and endurance. I've been doing lots of sweet spot base and leg speed work recently and pushed my V02 Max out a bit, as well as upping natural cadence (more efficient / less fatiguing), along with raising my lactate threshold. I'm finding the HR zones useful for turbo trainer analysis (I've got them pinned over my PC screen) and can now relate it back to the road a little better but am still learning to interpret the data. As people get fitter they may well see their heart working less hard for the same performance (speed / power) and should also be able to go faster for longer, if they train right, they should also be able to maintain a higher lactate threshold HR, although that's too simple a statement, as it gets pretty complex ... www.lactate.com/lactate_threshold.html .
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