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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2014 0:23:00 GMT
Hi guys and girls,
I thought it would be a good idea to start a thread where we could share knowledge on all manners of security measures we take to protect our tribans. For example any particular locks people use, how we all secure our tribans in public (outside the workplace etc)or at home but also any other measures people take such as ID tagging companies, insurance companies anything really that we do to protect our tribans that others may not have thought about. There's plenty of insurance companies, ID schemes out there so we can also share any experiences we may have had with some companies etc. The last thing we want is somebody riding away and making a quick buck on our beloved bikes so lets make it as extremely hard for them to be stolen and get sharing ideas. What do we reckon?
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Post by Rocket on May 10, 2014 0:42:19 GMT
Here's my tip: ride your bike. It's much less likely to get stolen with you on it.
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Post by Spoakes on May 10, 2014 7:00:38 GMT
Tell that to the guy who had it stolen at gun point!
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Post by Rocket on May 10, 2014 12:37:30 GMT
Official police figures show that most bicycles are stolen when unattended therefore I stand by my advice.
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Post by Spoakes on May 10, 2014 14:02:52 GMT
Lol hope he feels better now.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2014 16:24:14 GMT
If it looks half decent don't leave it locked out in public. It will go eventually.
I've got an Abus granit d lock and an 11mm Pragmasis chain for if I ever HAVE to leave it locked up. But all the components that can be pinched just put me off leaving it anywhere.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2014 5:14:22 GMT
It's a sickening feeling to have a bike stolen, so for sure if it has to be left unattended all that can be done to secure it against theft should be taken. Unfortunately a quick u-tube search will quickly show there are no fool proof method against the hard core bike thief.
I tend not to leave my two wheeled friends unattended when i'm out and about. They are stored indoors as it would seem most are taken from either garden sheds of lockups. In many cases according to the media, this is down to the top end bikes being spotted and the owner followed.
When i'm away from home I check in advance my wee folding bike can be stored safely in hotel, all have been very obliging.
Bikes to most of us mean more than simply transport and play a special part in our lives...so thanks for starting this thread Peppers.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 3:20:41 GMT
It's a sickening feeling to have a bike stolen, so for sure if it has to be left unattended all that can be done to secure it against theft should be taken. Unfortunately a quick u-tube search will quickly show there are no fool proof method against the hard core bike thief. I tend not to leave my two wheeled friends unattended when i'm out and about. They are stored indoors as it would seem most are taken from either garden sheds of lockups. In many cases according to the media, this is down to the top end bikes being spotted and the owner followed. When i'm away from home I check in advance my wee folding bike can be stored safely in hotel, all have been very obliging. Bikes to most of us mean more than simply transport and play a special part in our lives...so thanks for starting this thread Peppers. sorry I have been away since I posted this. Judging by some of the responses I'm not entirely sure how this thread has attracted some negativity. It was suppose to give folks ideas on insurers, lock types etc to those new to biking or those commuting. Just to clarify I may be new to road biking but that does not mean i see my bike as a simple means of transport I just happen to use it for commuting also. Thanks to those who have contributed with helpful comments.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 18:13:39 GMT
What negativity?
It's the same old same old. You'd only ever be able to deter the opportunistic thief.
Any bike lock can get broken easily.
Most of the bike can be stripped with an allen key anyway.
Lock it up in your locked shed or garage or keep it in the house. House insurance is worthwhile.
Specific bike Insurance. Meh.
Tags, worthless.
Best way to lock up is d-lock through rear wheel and frame with a cable going through seat rail. Then a chain through the front wheel and frame. All to something solid. I do this with over £120 silly expensive locks, but if I wanted to pinch it I could have in it under a 60 secs. Arrive on foot and ride it away.
It's all common sense.
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Post by richardw on May 15, 2014 18:42:52 GMT
I had my first Specialized road bike pinched out the garden shed just after xmas, only rode it 3 times. Typical didnt lock it up as didnt think anything would happen with back garden pretty secluded. Must have been watched i think. The buggers even attempted to lock the shed back up afterwards to make it look completely normal. Didnt notice until i went to get the bike out to go for a ride. Covered under house insurance as within garden perimeter, couldn't do enough for me, assessors more than helpful. Win win for me as only paid £150 cash in hand from a mate. Assessor put a replacement new value of £500 plus accessories voucher. 2 days later got offered a 2014 Specialized Allez Elite worth £900 plus a Halfords voucher for £75 for all the bits. Couldn't say no really, got the bike, sold it on Ebay for £750. Got the Mrs a hybrid and me the T500.
Now mine gets locked up under the stairs and always make sure nobody following me or watching down the street before going in the house with it.
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Post by Steph on May 15, 2014 19:40:32 GMT
Mine is stored in my gran's garage a few houses down the road from us. Doesn't get locked up in there but the garage is locked. Don't know how easy/hard it would be to break in, probably pretty easy but it would be covered under various insurance policies (my gran's house insurance and my bike-specific insurance.) Actually only got the bike insurance to cover against accidental damage. Decided I didn't want a repeat of the £100+ bill for replacing both shifters after knackering them in a fall back in Sep. I very rarely lock my bike up when I'm out and about, partly because I never need to but also because I don't have a good enough lock. I will be buying one sometime in the next few days though, probably the Kryptonite Evolution Mini 7 as it about the only decent, cheaper one (£25.98 with a discount from Tredz) that would fit on my bike when I'm not using it.
Edit: Just ordered that one actually. Won't find it cheaper and need it in time for next weekend.
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Post by erictherat on May 15, 2014 20:02:37 GMT
when i lived in london and used a bike for commuting i treated it as a semi disposable item, on the correct assumption that within 6 months it would get nicked or, more usually, stripped. id buy a new £80 mountain bike and didnt cry.
Now i live in rural derbyshire and have a lovely triban 3 which i use for work, and is chained up outside libraries and people's houses. I use a long bendy lock - cost £5. It is long enough to secure both wheels and the frame to a convenient post. if someone want to nick it they can bring a bolt cutter, but you cant walk off with it. but so far - touch wood - im lucky.
my moral - bike crime way worse in the city. if you unlucky to live in the city, dont use a nice bike for commuting, have a cheap one and use your nice bike to get out of the city at the weekend.
my commutes are too hard to do on a crap bike, are on lovely country roads and over biggish hills. so gotta take the risk of leaving my lovely triban. I would like 2 bikes but thats n+1 =).
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 20:26:05 GMT
when i lived in london and used a bike for commuting i treated it as a semi disposable item, on the correct assumption that within 6 months it would get nicked or, more usually, stripped. id buy a new £80 mountain bike and didnt cry. Now i live in rural derbyshire and have a lovely triban 3 which i use for work, and is chained up outside libraries and people's houses. I use a long bendy lock - cost £5. It is long enough to secure both wheels and the frame to a convenient post. if someone want to nick it they can bring a bolt cutter, but you cant walk off with it. but so far - touch wood - im lucky. my moral - bike crime way worse in the city. if you unlucky to live in the city, dont use a nice bike for commuting, have a cheap one and use your nice bike to get out of the city at the weekend. my commutes are too hard to do on a crap bike, are on lovely country roads and over biggish hills. so gotta take the risk of leaving my lovely triban. I would like 2 bikes but thats n+1 =). You can cut them locks with a small pair of tin snips or cable cutters, pliers or maybe even a pair of garden secateurs, try it. A piece of wood would bust it with a bit of leverage too. A d lock would be best bet. That orange Kryptonite Evo one with the cable is a good buy sometimes under £30, or the equivalent Abus one.
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Post by erictherat on May 18, 2014 10:43:21 GMT
I had 2 bikes stolen in london despite d-locks. police say thieves freeze then smash em. if someone is going out kitted up to steal bikes, they gonna have em.
if you leaving your bike unattended, you are taking a risk. from my experience the risk is much worse in cities. A determined pro thief will have your bike however you lock it. BUT - you can stop kids just walking off with it.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2014 0:10:19 GMT
Quite a lengthy post but I've got some info that may be helpful. sorry @kombatcookie I must have read posts wrong I tend to do that, anyway it's good people know what the thread was suppose to be about I mean me for example I am new to cycling I did MTB for a while but I wouldn't need to lock it up at events as it would be with me the whole time so I was just looking for advice as a newbie and thought some other newbies would find it useful . I got an Abus mini U-Lock (£25 from Decathlon) which is silver rated although is on the tight side when locking the bike up and a kryptonite cable to secure the front wheel, I also use a smaller cable to secure the saddle (just goes through the bars underneath saddle) to whatever I'm parking up against, usually the bike sheds it could probably be cut but it's just a deterrent more than anything else. The abus says it is freeze spray tested as well which is a bonus but yes I totally agree if a thief wants something they will get it. I did originally get the triban for commuting but now with the work I've done and time I've put in to her it would devastate me if she was taken and I get more nervous leaving her each time, to be fair it is in a fairly well looked after area where I park up but I still get nervous. My commute (being in Yorkshire) is 7 miles each way of up and down hills and the triban looked the most enjoyable bike to do this on and it does the job impressively however as I said all the time and work put in to it I was looking at a fold up bike or just something cheaper maybe for the commute maybe I will in a few months time but from a crap day at work or uni I really look forward to getting on the bike and having a good ride home, enjoyment I have never had on any other bike (sad I know) Anyway she is kept in the living room when at home and she is insured I went with Eversure which I got a really good price for annual cover and the guys in the contact centre are really helpful I emailed over links to the locks I had to ensure they would cover me if the bike ever was stolen which I got an email back the same day stating they had looked into the lock and it was indeed on a list they insure and to have it in an email form I printed it off and keep it in my records. So I would reccomend anyone taking out insurance solely for the bike to check with the insurer that their particular locks are insured with them etc. So first impressions with Eversure is they are pretty good if anyone is looking. Hope this helps guys and thanks for all of your inputs
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