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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 15:39:09 GMT
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Post by acd1055 on Sept 17, 2013 15:49:06 GMT
I can see their point.. I took part in the Manchester - Blackpool ride a month or so ago along with over 8000 other cyclists and the roads all the way to Blackpool were clogged up and if I were in a car it would have drove me mad, there were cars just sat at junctions not being able to move.. people were riding 4 abreast so cars couldn't safely over take.
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Post by Radchenister on Sept 17, 2013 17:06:30 GMT
Already did this one earlier BA - my original post: Apparently, them peskie cyclists is causin' mayhem, holding up parts of Surrey in a wagon circle, 5am 'til 9pm 'n' all ... yeeehawww ...lol !!! www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24077383-------------------------------------------------- Another media drama fest, this time from the Jam and Jerusalem gang.
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Post by cocopops on Sept 17, 2013 17:15:16 GMT
They have nothing else better to do. Get a life its only once a year
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 17:33:13 GMT
I can understand it being quite annoying with the roads closed. If you live on a closed road then you are stuck either at home or out all day. If you are in the loop that is closed you can't travel outside of the loop.
But honestly, it is one day a year and you have plenty of notice about it. Surely it isn't that hard to make plans around one day of road closures. They were happy when it was the Olympics, but now all those pesky cyclists are doing it it's one huge inconvenience.
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Post by baldbloke on Sept 17, 2013 18:09:28 GMT
They have nothing else better to do. Get a life its only once a year I'm not saying I agree with them but cycling events through Surrey occur more than once a year. There are many London-Brighton runs with varying amounts of road closures. I did one earlier this year and the behaviour of some cyclists left much to be desired.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 19:05:50 GMT
One of the people they quote actually has a reasonable point; why doesn't the local authorities follow the example of those in the grand tour countries and create a rolling road closure? Anyone who has been to watch the likes of Le Tour before will know how well this can be implemented by the properly organised gendarmes and this would go some way to creating a healthy relationship between cyclists and the local populace. Plus those of the anti-cycling brigade wouldn't have a leg to stand on anymore!
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Post by Radchenister on Sept 17, 2013 19:08:21 GMT
Rolling road closure is what happens at the TOB and around here for things such as the Severn Valley Road Race; it's the mass participation events that people are complaining about in reality.
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Post by Radchenister on Sept 17, 2013 19:11:59 GMT
PS - Time Trialing just slips into the normal traffic and does mainly left turn courses with no traffic lights.
As discovered by our Parish when the new lights in the village meant the cycle club bookings for the village hall dropped off due to not being able to race through the village anymore.
Unfortunate, as the lights are generally for controlling rush hour eedjets and have no practical bearing on other times of day, particularly quiet times when the racing took place.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 19:17:26 GMT
Rolling road closure is what happens at the TOB and around here for things such as the Severn Valley Road Race; it's the mass participation events that people are complaining about in reality. Logistically though it wouldn't be that hard to implement for the Sportives (granted the roads may be closed for longer than the pro races), you could just set time limits according to the mileage and have a broom wagon sweeping up the stragglers (or warning them if they insist on continuing that the road will be open to traffic & they will be liable for their own safety). Although thinking about it, it's probably down to insurance purposes that they have to do full day closures. I do agree though that if you swapped the sport & replaced cycling with say running the local populace would sharp change their tune. The GNR for example is very well supported back home, not sure if I'd be able to say the same about a mass cycle event & same with the half marathon/10k events here in Leeds.
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Post by Radchenister on Sept 17, 2013 19:24:08 GMT
It's over cooked by the good old BBC, more 'us and them' stuff.
There will be as many, if not ten fold, for it as the 1200 written 'signatures' and the whopping 120 online, that haven't commented locally; there will be a fair few who love it for the business it brings to the locality ... it's most likely the modern curse of the loudest whingers getting space in the media, who together are painting a picture that isn't proportionate to the reality on the ground and the views of the average Joe, who probably have no issue with it.
Before I got into road cycling I used to love the sound of the carbon aero wheels buzzing past the hedge early on a Sunday morning - now I know more of what they're up to, I wish it hadn't been driven further downstream due to road improvements and 'progress'.
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Post by Whitestar1 on Sept 17, 2013 23:00:42 GMT
I can understand it being quite annoying with the roads closed. If you live on a closed road then you are stuck either at home or out all day. If you are in the loop that is closed you can't travel outside of the loop. But honestly, it is one day a year and you have plenty of notice about it. Surely it isn't that hard to make plans around one day of road closures. They were happy when it was the Olympics, but now all those pesky cyclists are doing it it's one huge inconvenience. I wonder that too. It's just a seasonal event, what can be so hard about that? On the other hand I do sympathise with residents of places like Box hill. road.cc/content/news/87657-surrey-councillor-calls-regulation-sportive-events-around-box-hillToo many events in a single place can be a problem if you live in that area.
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Post by Whitestar1 on Sept 17, 2013 23:06:27 GMT
Already did this one earlier BA - my original post: Apparently, them peskie cyclists is causin' mayhem, holding up parts of Surrey in a wagon circle, 5am 'til 9pm 'n' all ... yeeehawww ...lol !!! www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24077383-------------------------------------------------- Another media drama fest, this time from the Jam and Jerusalem gang. nice use of the cowboys Indians rad but the circling of wagons is a defensive tactic so I would say the surrey residents are circling their wagons against use cyclist. Once again just my humble opinion and I grew up on John Wayne "The Duke" movies.
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Post by Radchenister on Sept 17, 2013 23:30:27 GMT
Swoooooosh - the sound of someone missing the point entirely, are you on the wind up or for real with that comment ... or are you on the pop? If so send me some over ! It's the irony of the media 'us and them' scenario that I'm jesting at, I don't think it's as bad as portrayed either, so you're agreeing with me . Edit: at least I think you are? It being obvious in my odd brain that the static captives are the wagons / Surrey residents metaphor, as set out by the BBC - perhaps it's me losing the plot lol ?
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Post by Whitestar1 on Sept 18, 2013 6:34:25 GMT
Swoooooosh - the sound of someone missing the point entirely, are you on the wind up or for real with that comment ... or are you on the pop? If so send me some over ! It's the irony of the media 'us and them' scenario that I'm jesting at, I don't think it's as bad as portrayed either, so you're agreeing with me . Edit: at least I think you are? It being obvious in my odd brain that the static captives are the wagons / Surrey residents metaphor, as set out by the BBC - perhaps it's me losing the plot lol ? Naa no pop nor missing the point. Just a big cowboys and Indians fan. I do agree with you, whole heartily, just that I would say we the cyclists need to circle wagons for the Indians are attacking again!The Indians know who they are (not calling names). Even so, a great picture and greater sense of humour too.
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