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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 9:17:32 GMT
I have a Specialized Tactic (mountain bike helmet) which was around Β£80. One point to note with Specialized is that if you do kill your helmet in an accident within the first 2 years of its life, you can return it to them and they will give you a 40% discount off its replacement. I used this service earlier this year when I came off my mountain bike and smashed my helmet into 4 pieces... Did you choose that one for any reason? It looks like it offers a bit more protection that a lot of others.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 9:22:02 GMT
Like the look of the Kask k50, Specialized Tactic 2 and the Giro Savant so far
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Post by psyclepath on Jul 24, 2013 9:59:51 GMT
mavic plasma - same deal as spesh, 2 year crash discount warranty it doesnt matter if you are off down the shops or heading up the col du galibier for the seventh time, a helmet provides better protect than none, cant believe its not law like saddles and shoesits very much a personal fit thing so whats good for one isnt necessarily good for another, youll need to try a few on Making it law has done wonders for cycling in Australia hasn't it? There is immense pressure there to repeal it. Statistically you have more likelihood of a head injury as a car occupant, surely it should be made law to wear a helmet whilst travelling in a car too? How about pedestrians, they should also be compelled to wear a helmet? Seeing as it isn't even law to wear a (motorbike) helmet on a road legal quadbike, the chances of compulsory helmets for cyclists looks unlikely. I wear a helmet, but primarily so I can mount a camera on it. They are next to useless in any sort of collision with a vehicle. I can kind of see the benefit if you are off road where there are treestumps/rocks you could land on, but on the road they are of little benefit, and some studies suggest that drivers take more chances (ie pass more closely) with a helmeted cyclist.
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Post by jdebs on Jul 24, 2013 10:13:53 GMT
Surely it makes sense wearing a helmet. If the slightest knock to your dumpling is dampened its a no brainer !!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 10:29:34 GMT
Surely it makes sense wearing a helmet. If the slightest knock to your dumpling is dampened its a no brainer !! Yeah I now think so, at least reduces impact to your head slightly and will/ hopefully stop you cracking your head open and loosing blood. But the choice to wear one, should remain so.
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Post by zoltansocrates on Jul 24, 2013 10:33:17 GMT
helmet discussions often descend into this, wearing a helmet is indeed a 'no brainer' how someone can imply a tree stump is leass favourable than a kerb is beyond me. pedestrians dont travel at speed, why would they need a helmet? in a car there are airbags to offer protection, shall we just get rid of them?
you do what you like obviously, but if a helmet gives you a better chance of protection against impact than that you would get from your skull alone then a helmet is worth it
statistics can often be skewed to suit a persons agenda, helmets dont protect against vehicles granted but then its very rare a vehicle will hit your head, its the fall and the lack of control of your head during that fall, at speed, that demands you protect your head
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 10:41:22 GMT
Back to reccommendations.
Am I right about the pointy ones at the back being a bit dangerous in a rear head Impact. Surely is more likley to damage your neck.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 10:56:00 GMT
Often amazes me how many cyclists I see without one. Yes it won't protect you should go against a car or downhill at 40mph. Your face will still peel off but you can bet your meemaw that it will protect your head if that's first body part to hit the road. Colleague at work came off after going over a rock, he landed head first on the side. He showed me the helmet. Fully cracked down one side but nothing more than a bit dazed. I'm sure without the helmet he would of been a lot worse. Anyways for me it had to be Btwin so I went for Sport 7.
It matches the bike, lightweight, plenty breathable, has a ratchet band and came with spare pads. WHATEVER YOU DO, I WOULD RECOMMEND GO DOWN TO A SHOP AND TRY FOR FIT.
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Post by zoltansocrates on Jul 24, 2013 11:02:41 GMT
Often amazes me how many cyclists I see without one. Yes it won't protect you should go against a car or downhill at 40mph. Your face will still peel off but you can bet your meemaw that it will protect your head if that's first body part to hit the road. Colleague at work came off after going over a rock, he landed head first on the side. He showed me the helmet. Fully cracked down one side but nothing more than a bit dazed. I'm sure without the helmet he would of been a lot worse. Anyways for me it had to be Btwin so I went for Sport 7.
It matches the bike, lightweight, plenty breathable, has a ratchet band and came with spare pads. WHATEVER YOU DO, I WOULD RECOMMEND GO DOWN TO A SHOP AND TRY FOR FIT. Agreed about the btwin lid its nice, very light and quite comfortable, got one too, think they look great To balance it out a bit i have heard of serious impacts where the surgeons are removing bits of helmet from inside the skull, extreme cases no doubt but who is to say your next off isnt a serious one Ps if they could sort out visibility and movement issues then im all for helmets in cars Pps hope yer mates ok now
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 11:09:10 GMT
Bleeding 'ek, "bits of helmet in the skull" :/ Which brings back to OP questions about the back having to many sonic the head-hog style fins. I would think the manufactures test for these things and are happy they don't cause damage in accidents.
Yeah colleague was all ok after the fall, although we advised him to visit the A&E when he got home in case any internal damage may of been done. I still stand by a helmet. Don't wear one at your own peril.
p.s. it's something drivers/public often moan about, that cyclists don't wear helmets so on a PR front, good to wear one too
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Post by cbrdeano on Jul 24, 2013 12:13:29 GMT
"bits of helmet in the skull" at least implies that they survived to be operated on.
Imagine the damage if the helmet had not removed most of the impact energy BEFORE the skull touched down.
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Post by martin88 on Jul 24, 2013 12:19:10 GMT
I recently purchased this www.evanscycles.com/products/louis-garneau/sharp-helmet-ec033656
The shop honoured the online discount, I just showed them the web page on my phone. Now I look at it though I see only certain ones are discounted (of which mine is not one of) but they never picked up on this. The sizing was an issue for me, and that is why a shop was the only option. My head is 60cm above the eyebrows and around. Yet I end up with a medium which is 57cm - 59cm. It fits perfectly. So strongly advice you try any helmet on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 13:52:24 GMT
I have a Specialized Tactic (mountain bike helmet) which was around Β£80. One point to note with Specialized is that if you do kill your helmet in an accident within the first 2 years of its life, you can return it to them and they will give you a 40% discount off its replacement. I used this service earlier this year when I came off my mountain bike and smashed my helmet into 4 pieces... Did you choose that one for any reason? It looks like it offers a bit more protection that a lot of others. I actually prefered the next model up which I used to have until some idiot threw a rock at me and left it with a sizeable dent and me with concusion. Attachment DeletedThe reason for throwing the rock at me was I refused to have sex with a bunch of drunk teenagers (I have limits!) so they took to throwing rocks at me instead. when that one hit me, I ditched my bike and actually went back for a fight with them - probably not the best move in hindsight but it did stop them throwing any more rocks at me! anyhow I actually prefered the Spech S-works team mtb helemt but without a job funds will not stretch to a Β£160 helmet... so I went with the tactic which was the next most comfortable one for me. I prefer the 2013 models btw, the ventiliation is superb and the new fastening system needs no adjustment. The fastening system at the back is very adjustable, though at first glance you would think it does not adjust vertically, (you just have to be really brave and pull the 2 poppers out of the helmet material and then move them as needed and pop them back into place afterwards). But what is comfortable for me is not necessarily comfortable for you. it is the same story as saddles and padded shorts. my OH hates Spech helmets and has a Giro one. I hate Giro ones and will only have Spech ones because I know they are all that is comfortable for me.
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Post by panda on Jul 24, 2013 14:13:07 GMT
I had a look at the Which? review. I can't post it on here obviously, but they carried out more rigorous tests than the safety standards require and cover all of the following: Shock absorption: Fastening stress: Stays put: Field of vision: Overall protection: Ventilation: Visible at night: Instructions: Putting on: Taking off: Adjustments: Straps and buckles: One hand opening: Comfort: Overall ease of use: I believe that they had 5 stars for each and if a helmet past the EU test for shock absorption, it got 2 stars, so you can see how demanding they were. The top 3 helmets in their review were all Specialized (Flash, Echelon, Align). Equal to this was Giro Flume (youth helmet). Giro Savant and Specialized Echelon scored highest for shock absorption. Which are quite harsh and will score anything black as one star for 'Visible at night'. So that's the independent view for you. Alternatively, my friend wears one of these: www.wiggle.co.uk/hardnutz-hi-vis-road-cycling-helmet/ as he believes that nothing will hit you if you are wearing one. Another point for the Which report, they didn't test every helmet on the market, they tend to test the market leaders (inc Giro/Bell/Met) and they also recommended to trading standards that one helmet should be recalled (Met Camaletone).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 14:23:03 GMT
Christ, that story's mental! Genuinely shocked at that one.
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