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Post by derekv4 on Jan 18, 2019 18:27:25 GMT
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Post by Paulinblack on Jan 19, 2019 11:38:53 GMT
Surprised (Or am I?) that there has been no discussion about this. Van Rysel, which translated from Flemish to English means 'From Lille', is the new name for the Ultra side of the B'Twin fleet.
The colour set now seems to be shiny chrome/silver. Not sure whether the Ultra's are changing. Not sure what I think yet of the branding yet.
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Post by Paulinblack on Jan 19, 2019 12:47:48 GMT
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Post by chas on Jan 19, 2019 13:57:52 GMT
Van/Rysel is growing on me, I like the fact that it means something and it could have been a lot worse. AFAIK the first models are just new paint jobs on the old Ultra's but the aero disc concept model shows there should be some exiting things to come.
One concern I have with the Triban / Van/Rysel split is that they are currently split by price. I think one of the reasons for the success of the Triban 3 was it's ability as a budget race bike and while the new Tribans are more versatile they're becoming more like touring bikes. On the other hand there is also a market for high spec Audax style bikes, I would have bought an af/gf if it had mudguard eyes rather than the RC520. I shall pass this thought on and hope both ranges widen in the future.
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Post by derekv4 on Jan 21, 2019 14:48:10 GMT
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Post by phred1812 on Jan 22, 2019 10:06:49 GMT
A clever move by Decathlon IMHO. The perception of the B'Twin brand has always been value for money. At £299 my T3 certainly was that even if I have spent a small fortune upgrading it over the years. It was a great introduction to the road scene but, like it or not, cycling is a lot about image as well as performance. Personally I couldn't contemplate buying a high end B'Twin bike no matter how well specced or good value it was. That's why I ride a Cinelli. The carbon frame was built in Taiwan as were probably the rest of the components none of which are original but it's got an Italian name with history and it looks great. Van Rysel clearly has no history but it has meaning and the Flanders connection is good. I would certainly consider buying one now particularly if there was a RED  option. Now the B'Twin name is being phased out what are we going to call this forum? Revert to Triban Owners Club or Van Rysel & Triban Owners Club? A bit too long winded perhaps? |
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Post by demonkarlos on Jan 22, 2019 10:47:08 GMT
I was hoping that my next bike purchase will be in 2020, therefore I am very interested in the aero bike that should be coming next year...
I was going to move away from B'Twin for something more customised (my Local Bike Shop specialises in custom builds), however an aero bike at the right price may be too tempting for me to turn down!
I am not keen on the name at all, and think they should have gone with the proper Flemish spelling (which I am told is Van Rijsel). Nevertheless, I am sure it will grow on me.
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Post by Scott M on Jan 22, 2019 11:02:30 GMT
A clever move by Decathlon IMHO. The perception of the B'Twin brand has always been value for money. At £299 my T3 certainly was that even if I have spent a small fortune upgrading it over the years. It was a great introduction to the road scene but, like it or not, cycling is a lot about image as well as performance. Personally I couldn't contemplate buying a high end B'Twin bike no matter how well specced or good value it was. That's why I ride a Cinelli. The carbon frame was built in Taiwan as were probably the rest of the components none of which are original but it's got an Italian name with history and it looks great. Van Rysel clearly has no history but it has meaning and the Flanders connection is good. I would certainly consider buying one now particularly if there was a RED option. Now the B'Twin name is being phased out what are we going to call this forum? Revert to Triban Owners Club or Van Rysel & Triban Owners Club? A bit too long winded perhaps? I can sort of understand why people might shy away from a particular make in general, e.g. if they felt all Decathlon bikes were too 'low rent', but I'm surprised to hear someone say they wouldn't buy a bike if it was named 'A', but would consider it when the name was changed to 'B'. |
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Post by Rocket on Jan 22, 2019 12:37:31 GMT
I wanted an aero bike a few years ago. Nothing available from Decathlon so I bought Canyon. Similar story when I wanted a time trial bike. Now if Decathlon had credible alternatives I'm sure they would have got my money.
They appear very slow to changing market trends. Adoption of disc brakes on their top end bikes is another example.
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Post by chas on Jan 22, 2019 18:47:29 GMT
I wanted an aero bike a few years ago. Nothing available from Decathlon so I bought Canyon. Similar story when I wanted a time trial bike. Now if Decathlon had credible alternatives I'm sure they would have got my money. They appear very slow to changing market trends. Adoption of disc brakes on their top end bikes is another example. I think that was one of the reasons for splitting the brand into different families allowing each to be more focussed on a specific sport/market. I'm really exited to see what new models they come up with, I may have to take out another cyclescheme when my current one for the RC520 runs out  |
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Post by derekv4 on Jan 23, 2019 18:28:55 GMT
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Post by derekv4 on Jan 23, 2019 18:31:22 GMT
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Post by derekv4 on Jan 24, 2019 18:31:48 GMT
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Post by Paulinblack on Jan 25, 2019 7:34:08 GMT
I'm interested to see if the Van Rysel range becomes a 'more expensive' range. BTwin has always been known for VFN, but I wonder whether that mantel will be taken over by Triban and whether Van Rysel will take the price of an Ultra and raise it to a similar level as Trek, Giant and other more expensive brands? I really hope not, but I could see the logic of it.
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Post by chas on Jan 25, 2019 12:14:20 GMT
I'm interested to see if the Van Rysel range becomes a 'more expensive' range. BTwin has always been known for VFN, but I wonder whether that mantel will be taken over by Triban and whether Van Rysel will take the price of an Ultra and raise it to a similar level as Trek, Giant and other more expensive brands? I really hope not, but I could see the logic of it. No, the Decathlon philosophy is 'To sell attractive, hi-tech sports items at the lowest possible prices, to enable as many people as possible to access our products.' The current Ultra range, although more expensive than the Triban range still represents great value as you know from your cf and that won't change with the name. I'm sure even at 5000 euros the Super Record 12 speed cf mentioned in the CW article above will still be good value. There was mention in the Road cc article of a budget VanRysel and there is a Triban 900 planned so the ranges will overlap in pricing in the future. |
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