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Post by KiwiBeard on Jan 21, 2017 9:23:08 GMT
Thinking of making a saddle upgrade. Rode last week with a guy with a imperial flyer. Today met another guy I know with an imperial. A few other peeps I know on my Tuesday night cycle group have brooks also.
What do I need to know to work out which one to get?
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Post by erictherat on Jan 21, 2017 10:50:53 GMT
very tricky question. i like my nidd, its not perfect for me. curiously it has taken me a very long time to get the position right - much further forward (to get my sit bones up on the back, rather than on the nose) and a bit nose up (to stop sliding forward.) Generally very comfy and i am happy sitting all day on it, but I still get some perineum numbness. to throw a spanner in the works, ive been considering a rido. hard to advise - most folk love their leather saddles, and i have to say - I am happy after a 400km ride. it is the old - try it out, but its an expensive investment. |
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Post by KiwiBeard on Jan 21, 2017 10:53:23 GMT
Well luckily in this case, I benefit from the gbp plummeting. £90 saddle is about $150 instead of $235
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Post by KiwiBeard on Jan 21, 2017 11:00:55 GMT
And in the opposit case, I bought a $6 saddle from china on eBay, and yes, it is by far the lightest saddle I own, but uncomfortable enough I took it off after one ride  I've just seen more brooks here in Aust than I ever did in the uk, hence why I'm thinking about going for one myself. |
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Post by erictherat on Jan 21, 2017 13:45:48 GMT
I've just seen more brooks here in Aust than I ever did in the uk, hence why I'm thinking about going for one myself. maybe related to doing more audax. how to spot a radonneur - a brooks and a carradice. there is a reason they are popular. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 14:14:39 GMT
Thinking of making a saddle upgrade. Rode last week with a guy with a imperial flyer. Today met another guy I know with an imperial. A few other peeps I know on my Tuesday night cycle group have brooks also. What do I need to know to work out which one to get? Which one indeed...I went to the dark side with Brooks when they launched the Cambium and fitted a C17 to my Mach, it does a very good job but there are times when we don’t quite get on. All of my bikes are kitted out with Brooks and they are all fit for purpose. Will list them but be warned you may fall asleep. Dawes Galaxy...B17 Special Flyer - heavy but super comfortable Dawes Shadow...B15 (Swallow) – easier to break in thinner leather and a bit lighter Carrera...B17 narrow – picked up from local bike shop came of early 80’s bike. Flying Scot...Team Professional – came with bike bought second hand - hard as nails but fab to ride Raleigh Boardwalk – B17 aged – very comfortable but for me too soft. Brompton – B17 copper looks good and feels good, still not quite broken in yet but well on it’s way to being a favourite. T3 – B17 – standard Mach C17 If was backed into a corner and had to choose one, it would have to be flagship model the B17 Over the years i’ve tried many different saddles much longer than the list above and a great many still hang in the shed. Tried the rest now believe i’ll stick with the best....are you still awake |
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Post by erictherat on Jan 21, 2017 15:03:46 GMT
Thinking of making a saddle upgrade. Rode last week with a guy with a imperial flyer. Today met another guy I know with an imperial. A few other peeps I know on my Tuesday night cycle group have brooks also. What do I need to know to work out which one to get? Which one indeed...I went to the dark side with Brooks when they launched the Cambium and fitted a C17 to my Mach, it does a very good job but there are times when we don’t quite get on. All of my bikes are kitted out with Brooks and they are all fit for purpose. Will list them but be warned you may fall asleep. Dawes Galaxy...B17 Special Flyer - heavy but super comfortable Dawes Shadow...B15 (Swallow) – easier to break in thinner leather and a bit lighter Carrera...B17 narrow – picked up from local bike shop came of early 80’s bike. Flying Scot...Team Professional – came with bike bought second hand - hard as nails but fab to ride Raleigh Boardwalk – B17 aged – very comfortable but for me too soft. Brompton – B17 copper looks good and feels good, still not quite broken in yet but well on it’s way to being a favourite. T3 – B17 – standard Mach C17 If was backed into a corner and had to choose one, it would have to be flagship model the B17 Over the years i’ve tried many different saddles much longer than the list above and a great many still hang in the shed. Tried the rest now believe i’ll stick with the best....are you still awake Thats an impressive collection of leather. forgot to mention... my spa nidd is as hard and unyielding as the day it was bought. no sign of wearing in after 10,000km. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 16:17:05 GMT
My mate once burnt his arse sitting down on a Brooks saddle. I think it was Hungary we were cycling through and the weather was red hot which heated up the rivets on the B17 saddle. Another true story..!!  |
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Post by baldbloke on Jan 21, 2017 17:25:30 GMT
I've got a Cambium. It's not perfect but it's the best I've had. It doesn't need breaking in like the leather versions.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 19:04:30 GMT
Is this a style and leather fetish driven thing?
Or do they offer something a modern saddle doesn't?
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Post by erictherat on Jan 21, 2017 19:26:12 GMT
Comfort over long distance. On a padded saddle when you hit a bump it compresses till you hit the hard bottom. ie, soft then suddenly rock hard.
The leather saddles are rock hard, but they flex. So when you hit a bump the saddle flexes to absorb the buump - so hard to a gradual progressive flex.
dont know if this is why... but it is what i feel when riding.
I used to have a charge spoon, which i was happy with up to about 100k, then id start to feel bruised and beat up. with my nidd, i am ok after 400k.
disadvantages are weight- they are heavy. breaking in time, they take a while to get comfy. maintenance - need applications of cream and not leaving out in the wet. (i put a cover on mine when i leave out in the rain).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 20:00:42 GMT
The B17 Brooks saddles (2 x standard, 1 x copper) I use were firm to start off with but there is plenty of give in them after being broken in.
Nice and comfy on long rides.
I don't seem to have problems with any saddles I use apart from those big wide "January" saddles found on cycling machines in sports centres. The type that are designed for massive, big fat bottoms that can appear immediately after the Christmas/New Year period.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 20:09:26 GMT
Took me a while to get the January reference, I had to get all through your whole post before I worked it out  |
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Post by william39 on Jan 22, 2017 1:04:30 GMT
I've got a Cambium C15 on my Trek, got a good deal at 102€ in June. Great for standard riding but not so good if pushing it and I don't like it on the Turbo so have swapped it onto my Triban. I'm tempted to try a C13 but they are expensive.
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Post by KiwiBeard on May 16, 2017 2:59:56 GMT
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