Post by taffytim on Jan 15, 2017 22:42:38 GMT
I have a 700 AF so have limited options in relation to mudguards.
I have crud 2s on my T3 so I'm used to the Crud brand and the fine fitment tolerances faced by their products.
Today I bought some Crud 3s so i thought i'd share my experience with them.
One reason I've held off buying these until know is because you have to glue the velcro type fasteners to your frame so I was a little put off by this. The weather has finally forced me to give in.
When applying the velcro pads I ensured the area on my frame was very clean, including using the de-greasing wipe provided. I marked the target areas with a bit of masking tape and then bit the bullet and stuck the 4 pads on the bike.
I will mention that this is very hard to work out, as with the Crud 2's a small but of movement has a big affect on where the guards sit and if you aren't pressing down firmly its really hard to gauge the best spot. Due to the type of glue on the pads they don't seem to want to be removed once on. I hear you can use a hairdryer to remove them but I'm presuming that they wont go back on once removed in this way (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Here's where I put them, my bike is a medium running the standard wheels and standard tyres.
If you think of the location point as a set of legs then the inside leg measurement from the crotch to the top of the velcro pads are 10 cm for the rears and 6 cm for the fronts. Looking at it now, I seem to have placed the rear pads too high on the frame, i should have put them at 15cm.
They seem to fit really well and I don't have any wheel rub on them but I've not ridden them on the road yet. They look quite slick and don't shout out that you are wearing mudguards like some bikes do. Here's my photos, so you can decide for yourselves:
Although too high the rear velcro strips are well hidden and I cant see them frustrating me come the summer:
Pads on, guards off - Rears:
From behind:
You don't lose the nice clean lines the 700's rear:
You could argue up close they look horrible, but who's going to get this close?:
Pads on, guards off - Fronts:
From the front, nothing offensive here:
From behind the front wheel, looks ok:
Looking to the offside fork, oh dear this looks as bad as i thought it would:
Looking at the nearside fork, looks as bad as the offside one:
Here's the view of the Crud 3s on:
Rear wheel:
Chain ring guard- On my dry fit this was sitting lower so the drips would have missed the frame:
They still provide cable tie to keep this part steady:
Getting the right height is fiddly but not impossible, i have no rub yet:
Front wheel:
Front tongue sits high enough after a fiddle, no screw just glued to the main guard:
Rear of the front sits lower than Crud 2s and should give better protection:
Enough clearance by the fork:
Here's the full view:
Short video showing that there is no rub:
I hope this helps someone with their fitment or making a decision on which guards to buy.
I have crud 2s on my T3 so I'm used to the Crud brand and the fine fitment tolerances faced by their products.
Today I bought some Crud 3s so i thought i'd share my experience with them.
One reason I've held off buying these until know is because you have to glue the velcro type fasteners to your frame so I was a little put off by this. The weather has finally forced me to give in.
When applying the velcro pads I ensured the area on my frame was very clean, including using the de-greasing wipe provided. I marked the target areas with a bit of masking tape and then bit the bullet and stuck the 4 pads on the bike.
I will mention that this is very hard to work out, as with the Crud 2's a small but of movement has a big affect on where the guards sit and if you aren't pressing down firmly its really hard to gauge the best spot. Due to the type of glue on the pads they don't seem to want to be removed once on. I hear you can use a hairdryer to remove them but I'm presuming that they wont go back on once removed in this way (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Here's where I put them, my bike is a medium running the standard wheels and standard tyres.
If you think of the location point as a set of legs then the inside leg measurement from the crotch to the top of the velcro pads are 10 cm for the rears and 6 cm for the fronts. Looking at it now, I seem to have placed the rear pads too high on the frame, i should have put them at 15cm.
They seem to fit really well and I don't have any wheel rub on them but I've not ridden them on the road yet. They look quite slick and don't shout out that you are wearing mudguards like some bikes do. Here's my photos, so you can decide for yourselves:
Although too high the rear velcro strips are well hidden and I cant see them frustrating me come the summer:
Pads on, guards off - Rears:
From behind:
You don't lose the nice clean lines the 700's rear:
You could argue up close they look horrible, but who's going to get this close?:
Pads on, guards off - Fronts:
From the front, nothing offensive here:
From behind the front wheel, looks ok:
Looking to the offside fork, oh dear this looks as bad as i thought it would:
Looking at the nearside fork, looks as bad as the offside one:
Here's the view of the Crud 3s on:
Rear wheel:
Chain ring guard- On my dry fit this was sitting lower so the drips would have missed the frame:
They still provide cable tie to keep this part steady:
Getting the right height is fiddly but not impossible, i have no rub yet:
Front wheel:
Front tongue sits high enough after a fiddle, no screw just glued to the main guard:
Rear of the front sits lower than Crud 2s and should give better protection:
Enough clearance by the fork:
Here's the full view:
Short video showing that there is no rub:
I hope this helps someone with their fitment or making a decision on which guards to buy.