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Post by Rocket on Jan 3, 2016 21:18:54 GMT
Thought it might be an idea to have a roundup on what lasts and what doesn't. I've been a bit concerned about what I consider really low mileage that some of you are getting from your rubber. I'm not looking to start a wee'ing up the wall contest but rather get a handle on what's what.
So I use Continental GP4000s and now sii. I use them all year round and I don't dish out massive power since I'm fairly light at 70Kg. I'm quite happy with their puncture resistance considering the miles I do. Looks like I had 6 in 10,500 miles last year.
Current GP4000s has been exclusively on my front for 12,364 miles (yes, twelve thousand) and still going. It seems to have worn equally on the crown and shoulders so maintained its profile reasonably well. I used to put my current front on the back when I replaced the back so as to have a new front but no longer bother with this practice. I run my tyres to within 5 miles of canvas showing through so I'm looking for reports of actual tyre life rather than I scrapped it due to a cut
Current GP4000sii has been exclusively on the rear for 4,783 miles with substantial life left in it. Previous GP4000s tyres lasted 4,000 miles so the Sii definitely seems to have superior life. Lowest rolling resistance out there is a bonus too.
So there you have it guys. Over to you...
Tyre type Rider power and weight Front or rear Conditions Puncture protection
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Post by martin122 on Jan 3, 2016 21:29:32 GMT
This is not tyres but brake pads.this is my first full winter cycling on the Triban 3 and i put a new set of shimano brake pads on 1st october and theres nothing left of them,it must be the wet and mud on the lanes because i been using these pads for couple years now and never had they worn so quick!! So i have ordered 2 sets of cheap wiggle pads if im going to get through them that quick! Sorry Rocket off topic i know
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Post by Rocket on Jan 3, 2016 21:38:55 GMT
Exactly Martin. If I was a mod I would ban you Perhaps start a similar thread and we can delete these posts to stay on topic. No good having information if its in the wrong place
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Post by erictherat on Jan 3, 2016 21:52:35 GMT
ok - what matters to me is puncture proof, vfm, long life, comfort.
i ride pretty slow over hilly country lanes with associated debris and potholes.- often with commuter panniers. I wear rear tyres much faster than most poss due to panniers, but mostly because i use rear brake too much. My rear pads and rims go fast. am trying to consciously use front more.
First tyres i bought were cheap and not cheerful rubinos. wore out stupid fast, got loads of holes.
since got gatorskins in the spring. noticeably comfier, only 1 puncture (from a big stone i hit full on /doh) in bout 5000k and no visable wear. they seem indestructible! downside - poor wet grip, not that i corner fast - i sometimes wheelspin on climbs. also they are apparently slow - which is a convenient excuse.
my next tyre will prob be Pro 4 Endurance after reading rolling resistance article. yeah - even i care about rolling resistance a bit - at 20mph 5w a tyre is 10W. on a long ride that is a lot of energy.
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Post by r0b1et on Jan 3, 2016 23:26:12 GMT
Right then I have run 2 tyres to the point they kept puncturing - both on the rear - not having swapped them:
Lithion 2 - managed 3,177.9 miles Pro 4: SC - managed 1,476.9 miles (with a fair bit of racing)
Fronts both times looked fine, the lithion's I've kept it as a space, the Pro 4: I ahd a 3rd of them, so did as Rocket and just switched the rear - these are my race tyre of choice.
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Post by jondxxx on Jan 4, 2016 9:32:46 GMT
The wear indicators on my gatorskins still showed that they had some miles left in them when I demoted them to spares after about 5K km. The marathon plus tyres on my other bike must have done about 2K and no signs of wear whatsoever. The Schwalbe Site might be of interest.
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Post by r0b1et on Jan 4, 2016 10:43:41 GMT
The Schwalbe site might be of interest. You had a circular link to this thread - so I've editted it to what I think you intended. Do change it if not.
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Post by robertsims on Jan 4, 2016 12:44:15 GMT
Horses for courses with tyres - what one man hates another one loves (like saddles!). Eric above hates Rubinos, where I ride nothing but Rubino Pros (slick and normal version) on both my bikes and think they are superb. Had 2 fairy visits in past 2.5 years of riding and commuting, grip well and ride nice.
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Post by Rocket on Jan 4, 2016 12:58:48 GMT
Come on Mr Sims, as per the thread title fill in the details please. I wasn't after a subjective assessment as to who prefers what tyre - I want the facts. You had 2 p*******s in 2.5 years of riding... That's pretty good if you did 25,000 miles like me but rather poor if you only did 250 miles. Time is irrelevant, I want the mileage.
I am looking to find out how long peoples tyres are lasting under what conditions because I am appalled to find that some are changing tyres after a little over a thousand miles. I have a suspicion that cheap tyres only last a quarter of the miles I get from my expensive German brand yet they don't cost a quarter as much so false economy on miles/price and don't have the benefit of being the lightest with the lowest rolling resistance.
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Post by Radchenister on Jan 4, 2016 13:18:46 GMT
I'll have to work mine out, not logged it very accurately but will be able to give a fair indication for current Rubino Pro Slicks, as changed them the day before ride London and have rotated them once. Back to work now, so will get onto this at some point, now I'm wishing I kept better records.
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Post by Radchenister on Jan 4, 2016 13:26:15 GMT
... swapping them across bikes and using them on turbo doesn't help with calc's but I'll sit down at some point and do some maths.
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Post by Rocket on Jan 4, 2016 13:30:12 GMT
You all know I love my geeky stats. If you can't measure it you can't manage it
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Post by Radchenister on Jan 4, 2016 13:32:03 GMT
I agree and feel I've let myself down, science down and the whole forum down LOL !
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Post by r0b1et on Jan 4, 2016 13:33:37 GMT
You all know I love my geeky stats. If you can't measure it you can't manage it I fear it says more, that only I can give you a straight answer... #GeeksShallInheritTheEarth
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Post by Radchenister on Jan 4, 2016 13:48:14 GMT
What's tricky, is that some of mine were retired through mini tears or holes that troubled me but would have been manageable; although I wasn't going to risk using them at an event that cost way more than a new tyre set, changing wasn't necessarily down to wear alone, confidence that I had a brand spanking new set on was part of the reason for changing for the two big events I did last year. Similarly with the seasons, a nice new set in spring is a treat and I have a collection in the shed that still have some use in them. ... but it's a good idea for a thread and hopefully will focus the minds in the future, well worth considering this stuff when buying. Although to be fair to Simmo, subjectivity should play some part, the comfort and feel are important to me personally (not necessarily talking perceived grip, which I think is over egged as a subject, more how they roll over rough surfaces), weave plays a big part and so does the profile and coating. Then we're into what pressure you run them and sizes, I get less flattening with 25s run at lower pressure than with 23s that are rock solid. Ongoing, back at work here ...
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