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Post by william39 on Jul 30, 2015 17:38:19 GMT
If you've not already upgraded your T3 then the money would be better spent on a 105 groupset and some decent wheels ie. Mavic Aksium or Fulcrum in my opinion. With regards to HRM, I thought it wouldn't be helpful but bought a cheap one linked to a watch from Decthlon for 18€ a few months ago. On the flat I rarely look at it but find it very helpful on climbs. My max heart rate seems to be close to what it should be according to age (190, I'm 29). On long 10km plus climbs I try to keep to around 170-175 then when there are a few kms to go I increase the effort. I can sustain 185-190 for the last Kilometre or so or on short climbs. Nothing scientific but it helps to stop blowing up and my times have improved. A power meter would be nice but I don't think I would benefit as I'm not commited enough to train to power, would make things feel too much like work when cycling is for pleasure and a stress reliever.
All depends on what your goals are really.
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Post by Windymiller on Jul 30, 2015 17:58:52 GMT
I'd say go for it...but would look at options of moving it to a new bike in the future as i don't think you'd get your money back selling it along with a T3. I'm currently thinking about getting a Stages Ultegra Crank Arm, not cheap at about £600 tho, plus i've just dropped £250 on new bits this morning. If you don't mind it being silver - Merlin have them still on special offer of 399 UKP (http://www.merlincycles.com/stages-power-shimano-ultegra-6700-power-meter-85003.html) The above will replace any Hollowtech II crank arm - just depends on whether you like it to match colour/style etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 19:51:27 GMT
If you've not already upgraded your T3 then the money would be better spent on a 105 groupset and some decent wheels ie. Mavic Aksium or Fulcrum in my opinion. I haven't made any upgrade past the saddle and I won't. If I wanted a better bike I'd rather save the money and get a higher end one. But I want to improve the engine I don't care how fast I am compared to others, I just want to improve my times compared to myself in my current bike. Also about the feeling of intensity I don't find it useful as when I'm fresh some power output would feel OK, but after a few hours it would feel impossible... unless there's something pushing me to keep it i.e. a PM. I agree with most of you that a HRM is good but for example here the wind gets crazy sometimes and when the crosswind is quite strong (30+kmh) I find it I'm wasting energy trying to keep a straight line and my HR shows it. Even though it feels hard that doesn't mean I'm training the right muscles so in that case following the HRM is not relevant. If I had a PM I could keep a target workload. Nonetheless I can't afford any PM. I'm looking for a cheap one. I don't really care that the numbers are accurate (I don't care comparison with other people) but precise. So I might wait for some of the new crowd funded projects to release first.
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Post by william39 on Jul 30, 2015 20:21:10 GMT
Wind affecting heart rate?! Is this a wind up?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 21:12:37 GMT
Maybe I was afraid of falling
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Post by Radchenister on Jul 30, 2015 21:35:04 GMT
You might be falling off this forum soon , show us some Strava so we can judge whether you're a regular and flying individual - I say this because you can simply improve your own performance by riding regularly, if you're not clocking 3 or 4 days riding a week, with some short intense ones and longer ones on weekends, then just doing that will sort out most performance issues.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 21:41:14 GMT
Sorry my strava is private and I already do that. I already got some opinions to make my mind about the purchawe so I guess I'm out of this place as I've been questioned since day 1. Wonder whether all brits are like this joke or only the cyclists.
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Post by Radchenister on Jul 30, 2015 21:49:20 GMT
Close the door on the way out , if you actually wanted advice I'd have taken you more seriously but on balance, I reckon you're a troll, so best of luck! Edit: for information / context, moderators have deleted a number of trolling posts from the OP in this part of the thread.
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Post by ChrisD on Jul 30, 2015 22:08:35 GMT
I'd say go for it...but would look at options of moving it to a new bike in the future as i don't think you'd get your money back selling it along with a T3. I'm currently thinking about getting a Stages Ultegra Crank Arm, not cheap at about £600 tho, plus i've just dropped £250 on new bits this morning. Merlin selling that very model for £400 at the mo Andy. Looks like Windymiller got there before me!
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Post by bennettkaru on Jul 31, 2015 5:14:28 GMT
You might be falling off this forum soon , show us some Strava so we can judge whether you're a regular and flying individual - I say this because you can simply improve your own performance by riding regularly, if you're not clocking 3 or 4 days riding a week, with some short intense ones and longer ones on weekends, then just doing that will sort out most performance issues. As a user of a powertap on every ride i'd say that's the key - ride enough to make it worthwhile. No point knowing you can sustain 175w for hours if you do it once a week, you won't see any positive results. Oh. He's gone...
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Post by bennettkaru on Jul 31, 2015 5:29:44 GMT
Incidentally if anyone else wants to take the plunge into powertap land I did see a secondhand powertap wheelset (active PT backhub and matching branding but passive front hub) on facebook for "only" £300. PM me and I'll link you innit
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Post by goffski on Jul 31, 2015 9:03:56 GMT
If you don't mind it being silver - Merlin have them still on special offer of 399 UKP (http://www.merlincycles.com/stages-power-shimano-ultegra-6700-power-meter-85003.html) The above will replace any Hollowtech II crank arm - just depends on whether you like it to match colour/style etc. Looks like a bit of a bargain but i'll be honest, it's gonna have to be the black 6800. Been watching them on eBay, some going for around the £440 ish mark.
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Post by r0b1et on Jul 31, 2015 10:02:00 GMT
As well as the price, I'm also significantly put off by the fact I have 4 bikes, and sure as hell can't afford 4 power meters. That basically means I'd be limited to pedal based ones (particularly because I've not even got consistant crank length ), but I then fear moving pedals a lot would mean I'd eventually strip the threads.
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Post by william39 on Jul 31, 2015 12:25:18 GMT
I would say the more often you change pedals the less likely they are to seize up. I swapped mine when trying a Cannondale the other week and they were very difficult to take off the first time but once greased they came off easily to swap them back over.
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Post by ChrisD on Aug 1, 2015 8:39:16 GMT
I would say the more often you change pedals the less likely they are to seize up. I swapped mine when trying a Cannondale the other week and they were very difficult to take off the first time but once greased they came off easily to swap them back over. I agree on that as getting the SPD pedals off my T3 after over 2k miles of being on there so I could set it up for Master D to have his first experience on a road bike was really hard work. That said, I think I read somewhere that a lot of care needs to be taken with fitting the Garmin Vector pedals so it may require a torque wrench and plenty of TLC when swapping them over. I have been told the Stages crank arms are very easy to swap but unless you have consistent BB systems, crank lengths and pedal types on at least two bikes (and crank arm colour/style match if you can't bear the thought of odd crank arms) then that's possibly moot.
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