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Post by Rocket on Jul 14, 2015 19:27:45 GMT
I've been looking for some more free speed so got my dad to video me on the trainer so I could see the side elevation of my riding position on the different handlebar positions and tri-bars. I've now got 10mm of spacers on top of the stem and I'm quite happy with the position in the drops or holding the shifter hoods Sphinx style. It remains to be seen if the position on the tops or flats is comfortable over long distances. On the tri-bars I think I would need to remove the remaining 20mm of spacers under the stem to get my back horizontal enough as this position is not currently as good as Sphinx to my thinking. Comments please. youtu.be/bL0kwdUl4bA
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Post by ChrisD on Jul 14, 2015 22:14:49 GMT
I'm no expert but I think I would agree with your analysis completely Rocket.
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Post by r0b1et on Jul 14, 2015 22:31:55 GMT
Yes I agree, BUT, on the tribars, you are likely quite a lot narrower - and that's a huge benefit. Looks to me like you could lose all the spacers and still be in a good position if you can sustain the power.
You have a really good position for a road bike with clip ons though.
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Post by william39 on Jul 14, 2015 23:36:24 GMT
I reckon you could go with a slightly longer stem to get you down lower if flexible enough.
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Post by goffski on Jul 15, 2015 9:21:34 GMT
I think a slightly longer stem too. On the tribars the stem needs to be dropped so you're lower down.
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Post by r0b1et on Jul 15, 2015 9:30:58 GMT
I'm not convinced by the longer stem... I'd probably want to see the video from the front too to decide. If reaching further helps you shrug your shoulders, then sure, but otherwise it might just be stretching you and cost power.
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Post by goffski on Jul 15, 2015 10:06:14 GMT
Should have said longer when on the drops.
Tri's look good to me but it needs dropping a little as he's a little higher than when he's in the drops. You'll never get the right setup for all positions, using clip on's usually needs some adjustments from your typical riding position.
Get the bike fit app and re-film it Roy, you'll get some measurements.
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Post by r0b1et on Jul 15, 2015 10:13:47 GMT
Should have said longer when on the drops. Tri's look good to me but it needs dropping a little as he's a little higher than when he's in the drops. You'll never get the right setup for all positions, using clip on's usually needs some adjustments from your typical riding position. I'd worry about the bars position, you will spend 99% of your time there, anywhere else and you are cornering so liekly slower anyhow. Certainly focus of the tribar position and let the others be as good as you can get with the tribars right.
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Post by goffski on Jul 15, 2015 10:28:34 GMT
Not too sure what you're try to achieve Roy. Unless you're setting this bike up as a TT bike then you're not likely to spend 99% of you time on the clip on's especially not the type of rides you do. Personally would forget about the clip on's as you seem to have a good aero position when down low on the hoods.
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Post by r0b1et on Jul 15, 2015 10:52:23 GMT
as you seem to have a good aero position when down low on the hoods. Not from the front it won't be. will be far too wide. That's why clip on bars make such a big difference.
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Post by Radchenister on Jul 15, 2015 10:53:11 GMT
I went longer to 120mm on the T3 for a while, fine for 1 hr sessions, awful on 4 hr rides - reckon the standard bike set up is fine, as you can tuck down as shown, or sit up a bit at times - the beauty of drop bars. TT bars, way too high to my eye, not sure about fore / aft until the first setting is adjusted; think I suggested to Rob that he was too stretched before and he came back in a bit recently (? can't remember exactly - getting old ?) - too stretched and you're hampered on levering your power down into the cranks. On a general note, I reckon if you put the bars low enough for TTing, then it'll be too low for riding on the everyday rides - here lies the reason why people have two bikes, it's not going to work for both scenarios IMHO; you may be able to knock the spacers off for TT's and pop them back on for everyday stuff; in which case I'd take the TT bars off as well. I dabbled with a borrowed TT bar set up for a while just for fun but decided that it was another world of obsession and a money pit I didn't want to do at the time (not written it off, just not doing it at the mo') - I decided I'd rather work on being an all rounded road rider, keep on getting fitter and keep dropping weight gradually, whilst also still just leisure riding. Comes down to where you want to head with it all ultimately, there's lots of obsessed TT'ers and many TT bikes gathering dust or on eBay etc which shows that it can be both all or consuming and a transient endeavor. I know I would be most suited to TT's as a discipline, so conversely, I'm avoiding it until I've developed my weaker areas ... horses for courses. Also wary that when you get obsessed to a level where your speed is everything, then it becomes a bit like a job and can become a noose for your own neck, as getting to and sustaining high levels is no walk in the park.
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Post by r0b1et on Jul 15, 2015 11:01:38 GMT
Agree.
TT and normal setups are VERY different. I'm comfy on my TT bike for a little over and hour, could probably manage if I had to... but I'd never do a sportive on it.
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Post by r0b1et on Jul 15, 2015 11:02:19 GMT
think I suggested to Rob that he was too stretched before and he came back in a bit recently (? can't remember exactly - getting old ?) - too stretched and you're hampered on levering your power down into the cranks. other way round... but yes, that's the point I was making earlier.
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Post by goffski on Jul 15, 2015 11:02:38 GMT
as you seem to have a good aero position when down low on the hoods. Not from the front it won't be. will be far too wide. That's why clip on bars make such a big difference. I'd say he'd be more aero in this position than his current position on the clip on's as he's too high, if he drops these then yes much better but thats not good for everyday riding. As Rad says "this is why people have two bikes" Roy, get yourself booked in at the local wind tunnel
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Post by goffski on Jul 15, 2015 11:04:41 GMT
On another note, how the hell do you ride 180km on a Tri/TT bike, i really couldn't imagine it.
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