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Post by chas on Jun 19, 2013 8:04:07 GMT
One interesting point about dedicated gps computers vs phones is the assisted GPS issue with phones. When you have zero reception and wifi the phones fail. Up in the highlands I did a good route but there where no Strava segments at all on a 15 mile stretch. I think this is why. The mountain rescue warn people heading up Ben Nevis not to use smartphones for navigation I don't think that applies to all phones, my old Samsung Galaxy Apollo one will find a fix no problem just on GPS with data and wifi off. It can take a bit longer mind (as in a couple of minutes) but it does find your location. I do have the problem of the apps wearing my battery out within a couple of hours, but I'm wondering whether getting one of the midriad of budget phones (ie a huawei vision for £50 from Phones 4 U) would do the job better and cheaper than the GPS loggers? I've been using my son's old ZTE KIS with cracked screen just for Strava (can't use my Nokia as it isn't android) new sim with no credit so I upload on wi fi when I get home. Lasts all day in my back pocket with the screen off and havn't had problems so far riding round the Derbyshire peaks. The Cateye mentioned earlier quotes a 10 hour battery life so not much advantage. I'd still like a dedicated one though for HR, cadence, navigation etc, just have to wait for Garmins to get cheaper or Decathlon to get there's working properly.
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Post by lowey on Jun 19, 2013 9:38:12 GMT
I have an Edge 500. It's great but sometimes takes ages to get a fix and can be slow at times updating the map. Missed a turn on Sunday, I was leading the club and instantly got demoted Well I hope that doesn't happen with my 510! GPS fix on the 510 is pretty quick, usually got a fix before I've even got it on the bike. Never suffered a drop out in all the time I've been using it.
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Post by spaceflightorange on Jun 19, 2013 10:53:08 GMT
One interesting point about dedicated gps computers vs phones is the assisted GPS issue with phones. When you have zero reception and wifi the phones fail. Up in the highlands I did a good route but there where no Strava segments at all on a 15 mile stretch. I think this is why. The mountain rescue warn people heading up Ben Nevis not to use smartphones for navigation I don't think that applies to all phones, my old Samsung Galaxy Apollo one will find a fix no problem just on GPS with data and wifi off. It can take a bit longer mind (as in a couple of minutes) but it does find your location. I do have the problem of the apps wearing my battery out within a couple of hours, but I'm wondering whether getting one of the midriad of budget phones (ie a huawei vision for £50 from Phones 4 U) would do the job better and cheaper than the GPS loggers? The main issue with smartphones is that most apps require a connection to serve the map data; Strava is one such app. So unless you have an app that will download and store map data offline, its not gonna work in remote areas. Although a basic recording app should work (which is pretty much what my Edge is) One thing to say about the Edge at least is that the battery life is fantastic
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 11:58:57 GMT
I don't think that applies to all phones, my old Samsung Galaxy Apollo one will find a fix no problem just on GPS with data and wifi off. It can take a bit longer mind (as in a couple of minutes) but it does find your location. I do have the problem of the apps wearing my battery out within a couple of hours, but I'm wondering whether getting one of the midriad of budget phones (ie a huawei vision for £50 from Phones 4 U) would do the job better and cheaper than the GPS loggers? The main issue with smartphones is that most apps require a connection to serve the map data; Strava is one such app. So unless you have an app that will download and store map data offline, its not gonna work in remote areas. Although a basic recording app should work (which is pretty much what my Edge is) One thing to say about the Edge at least is that the battery life is fantastic As far as I understand it, and I may well be wrong, I think Strava logs your GPS track, then marries this track to a map at the end when you save/upload your ride. This wouldn't require a network connection or data. I may turn data off before I ride home tonight to find out.
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Post by cocopops on Jun 19, 2013 12:06:19 GMT
I,ve got the Edge 200, found its works for me. came with two brackets so can swop from one bike two another easy, it will store 14 rides before you have to down load your rides onto Garmin connect. Only paid £85 off amerzon not sure what price is now? Had mine about 3 months
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Post by Phil on Jun 19, 2013 12:30:26 GMT
The main issue with smartphones is that most apps require a connection to serve the map data; Strava is one such app. So unless you have an app that will download and store map data offline, its not gonna work in remote areas. Although a basic recording app should work (which is pretty much what my Edge is) One thing to say about the Edge at least is that the battery life is fantastic As far as I understand it, and I may well be wrong, I think Strava logs your GPS track, then marries this track to a map at the end when you save/upload your ride. This wouldn't require a network connection or data. I may turn data off before I ride home tonight to find out. I believe you're right, a couple of MTB rides I've done have not had signal on my phone at various points but Strava showed no missing data.
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Post by Whitestar1 on Jun 19, 2013 12:57:02 GMT
Well I hope that doesn't happen with my 510! GPS fix on the 510 is pretty quick, usually got a fix before I've even got it on the bike. Never suffered a drop out in all the time I've been using it. That's good to hear. Still waiting for my order. Ordered the Team Garmin bundle, hence the long wait.
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Post by Whitestar1 on Jun 19, 2013 12:59:38 GMT
I,ve got the Edge 200, found its works for me. came with two brackets so can swop from one bike two another easy, it will store 14 rides before you have to down load your rides onto Garmin connect. Only paid £85 off amerzon not sure what price is now? Had mine about 3 months It's £90 actually. Does it come with the out front holder?
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Post by spaceflightorange on Jun 19, 2013 13:08:53 GMT
As far as I understand it, and I may well be wrong, I think Strava logs your GPS track, then marries this track to a map at the end when you save/upload your ride. This wouldn't require a network connection or data. I may turn data off before I ride home tonight to find out. I believe you're right, a couple of MTB rides I've done have not had signal on my phone at various points but Strava showed no missing data. Yes, you're both correct. I was talking out of my hat. You can tell i never use the strava app
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