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Post by Radchenister on Jun 5, 2013 10:12:14 GMT
That's them, they're the UK's largest cycling kit provider and supply lots of places, they do a good size range and all sorts of other items are available if we wanted to extend the range into winter kit; what do you want to know precisely, they're 90 miles from Wolverhampton in North Scarle if you're volunteering to go check them out - or perhaps someone nearby can go and report?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 11:16:04 GMT
So, I've read from start to (current) finish......Classic. I'm a commuter, I hate cyclists in black, with no lights.... So, Classic in red preferred, yes, red is not an option, in reality here. Classic, because it is clean, if Fredscuttles is still about, I get your point, but the top draws in those that are interested in what TOC is, nobody else who sees it is going to care a hoot what TOC stands for, less if they have to squint to see the words 'Triban Owners Club', remember, half the time we will be bent over giving it some pump-age through the pedals, itonly matters what the top says in the cafΓ©, where you can boast how your Β£300 bike just minced the Β£2000 fat knacker still huffing up the last hill..... What colour are you wearing in your Avatar? Perhaps as a compromise the O in TOC could be reflective material? Yes Panda, you are right, it is (mostly) black....with luminous skeleton effect. I wear a hi-viz back pack and have a 900lumins light on at the front too, in ALL weathers! I like the reflective 'O' option though, same with the print on the red option, that we're not doing...
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Post by Radchenister on Jun 5, 2013 11:26:30 GMT
Right, time to get serious!
I have agreed that someone representing TOC can visit the IMP Sport factory by appointment and see the garments to check quality and general style. They could post samples to me but if we've got a willing recruit nearby, then it saves a lot of hassle for both ends. They don't have a factory shop, you would be visiting the production plant - if you can help with this please let me know.
It transpires the on-line 'Kit Designer' has no set up fee, the costs are those stated previously as set out via their standard pricing chart, so it depends on numbers in a bulk order. If you were to order individually, the cost is the one set out in the 1 to 5 number garment cost range.
Once an order is in, we would progress to adding our logos and text in association with the art dept; then they send out a proof for approval and when we sign it off, it goes into production - this is free, as long as they are supplied with information of good quality in the right format, it would be good if any graphic designers on here can help me to organise this and give some advice on sizes the standard format; this is not my specialism.
I won't be able to progress anything without confirmed numbers and an order would then need to be put in; an order involves paying for them in advance, as we are not set up as a company or charity, so we can't be invoiced - the bottom line is that you would need to be committed to this idea and pay for it to proceed.
If you are interested please PM me; it's been a bit of fun so far but if we are to proceed, then now is the time to either opt in for certain or drop it.
Apparently most of the clubs out there usually do a yearly order and if there are stragglers or new joiners who can't wait for a batch run, they get stung for extra costs due to the hassles of one off production.
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Post by cocopops on Jun 5, 2013 11:35:53 GMT
I like just plane TOC think its a good talking point when outside a pub?? somebody is bound to ask what T O C stands for. I,m up for which ever, liked the old style best.
Just let me know when you want the readies
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 11:48:26 GMT
Right, time to get serious! I have agreed that someone representing TOC can visit the IMP Sport factory by appointment and see the garments to check quality and general style. They could post samples to me but if we've got a willing recruit nearby, then it saves a lot of hassle for both ends. They don't have a factory shop, you would be visiting the production plant - if you can help with this please let me know. It transpires the on-line 'Kit Designer' has no set up fee, the costs are those stated previously as set out via their standard pricing chart, so it depends on numbers in a bulk order. If you were to order individually, the cost is the one set out in the 1 to 5 number garment cost range. Once an order is in, we would progress to adding our logos and text in association with the art dept; then they send out a proof for approval and when we sign it off, it goes into production - this is free, as long as they are supplied with information of good quality in the right format, it would be good if any graphic designers on here can help me to organise this and give some advice on sizes the standard format; this is not my specialism. I won't be able to progress anything without confirmed numbers and an order would then need to be put in; an order involves paying for them in advance, as we are not set up as a company or charity, so we can't be invoiced - the bottom line is that you would need to be committed to this idea and pay for it to proceed. If you are interested please PM me; it's been a bit of fun so far but if we are to proceed, then now is the time to either opt in for certain or drop it. Apparently most of the clubs out there usually do a yearly order and if there are stragglers or new joiners who can't wait for a batch run, they get stung for extra costs due to the hassles of one off production. I've pm'd you Rad, I'm definitely in.
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Post by Radchenister on Jun 5, 2013 11:49:54 GMT
I will start a list of those who want to order seriously at some point but I do need someone to check the products (particularly the bibs and shorts) and we will need sufficient numbers.
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Post by Radchenister on Jun 5, 2013 11:52:24 GMT
Just noticed that the prices in the boxes are ex vat.
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Post by phred1812 on Jun 5, 2013 12:04:35 GMT
Are you not VAT registered Rad?
Thanks for your input on this. I don't how you find time to earn a living.
I will certainly be ordering. As a matter of interest, when they quote for order volume does that allow for a mix of sizes?
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Post by Radchenister on Jun 5, 2013 12:09:26 GMT
I end up working silly hours phred, in between messing on here - don't really intend to put the products through the business; you're welcome to get involved if you see a way.
Edit: and yes we need to schedule all sizes.
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Post by phred1812 on Jun 5, 2013 13:10:02 GMT
I wasn't serious about the VAT Rad. Just another poor attempt at humour. I think HMRC would take a dim view if I tried to pass off the purchase of sports apparel as a business expense.
My question about the sizes was can we for example order a batch of 30 in different sizes or does a batch have to be all one size? It looks like an order of 30 - 40 is easily achievable but they will a mix of S, M, L XL etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 13:12:01 GMT
I will start a list of those who want to order seriously at some point but I do need someone to check the products (particularly the bibs and shorts) and we will need sufficient numbers. If someone is going to the factory for the QC (or if indeed you have the samples posted out to you), can we please also take a look at the difference between the standard padding and the "Elite Pad" upgrade? (Obviously once the shorts have been sorted out like, I know the idea is leaning towards the jersey first of all) Just that imo the padding is the single most important part of bib shorts. Also Β£44.40-40.20 (+ the set up cost you mentioned earlier) for an official TOC jersey isn't bad going if we can get the number of orders to 6+.
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Post by Radchenister on Jun 5, 2013 13:27:47 GMT
No set up fee if we stick to standard on-line template and just adding our own logos and text.
The shorts get complex though, as aside from the performance aspects (which are important to the serious rider of course, as you say) they aren't all styled like the graphic I've shown, I will need to redo the graphic when I get a moment one evening, as well as set up the labels correctly (not a quick effort like last time) - this info will need to feed to the design dept' the other end; I will probably change the web address to simply read 'Triban Owners Club', as it negates messing about with the forum's name; anyone with any nous can find it on Google from that anyway.
We are at 5 via PM (some haven't logged via pm yet but have said so on here so we are in fact over), I am seeing how that goes for the moment - it would be good to get up to 13.
We will need to produce a sizing order schedule at some point and think about money handling.
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Post by Phil on Jun 5, 2013 13:47:34 GMT
Once an order is in, we would progress to adding our logos and text in association with the art dept; then they send out a proof for approval and when we sign it off, it goes into production - this is free, as long as they are supplied with information of good quality in the right format, it would be good if any graphic designers on here can help me to organise this and give some advice on sizes the standard format; this is not my specialism. Happy to help you set these up Rad. I'd imagine it will need to be vector based, but they should be able to supply a spec sheet of how they need the files supplying, these things are usually .eps files with outlined fonts.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 13:52:19 GMT
PM sent Rad, basically I'm up for a jersey.
Cheers.
Rob.
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Post by Radchenister on Jun 5, 2013 13:57:13 GMT
OK.
Phil, I have a spec' sheet, will get back to you in due course, as phred notes, I need to deal with the day job but will aim to give it some proper time over the weekend (I intend to have one (a weekend) this week).
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