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Jun 3, 2013 7:32:58 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 7:32:58 GMT
When I got my T3 the stem was a bit low and I was stretching forward a bit too much, but I flipped it over so it pointed up slightly rather than down and that helped a lot. Maybe something you can try? I always thought flipping the stem lowered the bars slightly? Certainly on my T7 the stem appears to be slanting upwards very slightly. Maybe it's different on the T3? ohoward, I've got 125mm of seat post exposed (that excludes the top bit, ie the wedge shaped thing the saddle rails clamp into). My saddle sits pretty much dead centre of 0-30 scale on the rails Hope that helps! Thanks for checking mate. I've got 140mm exposed at the moment - I'll keep dropping it until I find something comfortable. Maybe this is the cause of my problem? It's amazing how seemingly little difference here can have a huge effect. Did they take your 60 back without a fuss? I went out for a 20 mile loop around town and experienced some mild lower back pain. I'd like to try the 54 again and possibly swap if i feel it will be a better fit. The 54 did feel very small in the store though. Which stem have you replaced the stock with? Yes, this was at the Lakeside branch (T3 bike for me by the way). It did help that I only had it for a day and no longer and well only took it out for 10mins and knew straight away it was to big. I did give the tyres a wipe with damp cloth, just to make it look new again for next person The way I knew it was to big for me was that I felt that pain in shoulders and lower back almost instantly and I know the 57 is much better fit because doing a 40mile ride yesterday, I have no pain in those parts. I hate to confuse you more but I did happen to pop into the Evans right across from Decathlon and he got me on a bike and said I should be around a 54.I replaced the 110mm which is standard for the T3 @ 57 for a 90mm. Stock Btwin stem, 14 quid I think. Perhaps even an 70/80mm would one day. All about small adjustments. Yep, every online calculator for fit says I'd be best off with a 54 - it just didn't feel right. I did pop into Evans while I was down there as well but they were very busy. Thanks for the info on the stem. Interestingly the stock stem is 100mm on the T7. At Β£14 it'll be worth experimenting with the 90mm. My advice would be, if you have your saddle position sorted so it's right with your feet/clip plump line and height is about right for length of your legs/pedal cycle, then do your hub test again and check your reach. If you have that slight 15-20 degrees bend in your arms and back is in comfortable position, neck not hurting then your good to go. If it's to far away (further than can be corrected with a shorter stem) then I'd go try out the 54. Also remember it does take time to get used to a road bike and feeling comfortable in that position. Good luck My arms are never fully locked out. I think I'll have to recruit a mate to take some profile pics of me on the bike and try to get this nailed. I also noticed that 'out of the box' on my T7 the handlebars are pointed down. Bringing them up a little might help.
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Jun 3, 2013 9:32:11 GMT
Post by psyclepath on Jun 3, 2013 9:32:11 GMT
The ideal saddle position is that your legs are very slightly bent when the crank is at its lowest point of the rotation. If your legs are too straight you'll damage your knee ligaments at the back of the knee. If your leg is too bent you'll get aching knees and sore quads very quickly. Obviously you need to be able to touch the floor with at least one foot when you stop!
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Jun 3, 2013 9:48:45 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 9:48:45 GMT
The ideal saddle position is that your legs are very slightly bent when the crank is at its lowest point of the rotation. If your legs are too straight you'll damage your knee ligaments at the back of the knee. If your leg is too bent you'll get aching knees and sore quads very quickly. Obviously you need to be able to touch the floor with at least one foot when you stop! Indeed, this is really why I need a mate to help me out. KOPS seems to be a good starting point for fore/aft position of saddle as well.
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Jun 25, 2013 15:33:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 15:33:30 GMT
Resurrecting this thread.
I took my 7 along to a well respected bike shop out of town to get a proper opinion on my fit - mostly due to niggling lower back pain.
The guy in the shop said that I have almost ridiculously long legs for my height (84cm, 175cm)and that while the 57 T7 is too big for me reach wise, the 54 would be almost dangerous for me to ride as I'd most likely have too much seat post exposed and the drop to handlebars would be too much. In short the 57 was the right choice, but not ideal.
He said my proportions are an absolute nightmare to fit a bike to and that a 55\56cm frame would be best, but that we could work with what we had.
The outcome of this was that my saddle has been raised nearly 5cm and moved back about 1cm. He even suggested putting the 100mm stem I replaced with a 90mm as this would have the effect of flattening me out more but did admit reach could be severely compromised.
He thought the back pain could be caused by being too upright. He also said i should find climbing much easier now, which is a relief!
Going to test out this new set up properly over 30 miles on Thursday.
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Jun 25, 2013 19:20:23 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 19:20:23 GMT
i was the same in between sizes and went for the bigger as the smaller bike did feel cramped. had to put on a shorter stem and narrow handlebars as i'm female, now the bike is perfect...give it a couple of weeks or try a shorter stem does take a while adjust to new road bike position and the saddle lol
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Jun 25, 2013 19:22:42 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 19:22:42 GMT
Very interesting post o. I'm not far off from your measurements. 175cm height but 80cm full inseam (using book in between legs method).
The 54 would be to small; I agree on that one but I'm surprised he suggested longer reach by replacing the stem. Are you sure the steam that came with the bike is 100? I just checked the one that came off my T3 57cm frame and it's marked 110. I'm contemplating sourcing a 70, see how that feels.
Either way, be good to hear the outcome of your ride on Thursday.
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Jun 25, 2013 19:53:03 GMT
Post by stevo on Jun 25, 2013 19:53:03 GMT
6 foot and the 57 is spot on. tried the 60 felt too big. Modern racing bikes are meant to be fairly compact.
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Jun 25, 2013 20:00:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 20:00:44 GMT
Very interesting post o. I'm not far off from your measurements. 175cm height but 80cm full inseam (using book in between legs method). The 54 would be to small; I agree on that one but I'm surprised he suggested longer reach by replacing the stem. Are you sure the steam that came with the bike is 100? I just checked the one that came off my T3 57cm frame and it's marked 110. I'm contemplating sourcing a 70, see how that feels. Either way, be good to hear the outcome of your ride on Thursday. I know. It sounds counterintuitive but the theory is the greater reach will flatten out my back. That advice was given with the caveat that the reach might then become too much. Just checked the original stem. Definitely marked 100 which the tape measure confirms.
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Jun 25, 2013 20:08:35 GMT
Post by jdebs on Jun 25, 2013 20:08:35 GMT
I'm 5ft 11. Opted for the 60. I've had it since Feb. I have got a shorter stem. No reach issues at the mo. I've not tried a different size the compare. No body niggles at present. Fingers crossed!
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Jun 25, 2013 20:09:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 20:09:54 GMT
I really should also mention that when he asked me how much I paid for it he was very impressed (this place stocks cube, felt, storck and works closely with cyfacs as well as another couple of mega high end brands I'd never heard of) and even more so when I pointed out the 'made in Italy' sticker and links to Deda.
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Jun 25, 2013 20:12:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 20:12:20 GMT
I'm 5ft 11. Opted for the 60. I've had it since Feb. I have got a shorter stem. No reach issues at the mo. I've not tried a different size the compare. No body niggles at present. Fingers crossed! Well one thing I definitely learned today is that bike fit is like bloody neuroscience. But if you're comfortable on the bike it really doesn't matter.
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Jun 25, 2013 22:07:13 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 22:07:13 GMT
If anyone from Dec. is reading, it be a very worthwhile investment sending one bike salesperson on a fitting course in each store. I think this could vastly improve the already excellent service many of us consider to have had. Then you'd be able to make sure you have the right frame size, right stem and all adjusted to at least what is the recommendation. Then you can make small tweaks when you home home. Just a thought.
O did this LBS charge for fitting? I'm keen to have a 'pro' check my positioning over see what they say.
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Jun 26, 2013 5:14:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 5:14:17 GMT
They quoted me Β£25 on the phone for what they called a 'sight fit' but in the end didn't charge me anything.
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Jun 26, 2013 9:52:10 GMT
Post by spaceflightorange on Jun 26, 2013 9:52:10 GMT
Resurrecting this thread. I took my 7 along to a well respected bike shop out of town to get a proper opinion on my fit - mostly due to niggling lower back pain. The guy in the shop said that I have almost ridiculously long legs for my height (84cm, 175cm)and that while the 57 T7 is too big for me reach wise, the 54 would be almost dangerous for me to ride as I'd most likely have too much seat post exposed and the drop to handlebars would be too much. In short the 57 was the right choice, but not ideal. He said my proportions are an absolute nightmare to fit a bike to and that a 55\56cm frame would be best, but that we could work with what we had. The outcome of this was that my saddle has been raised nearly 5cm and moved back about 1cm. He even suggested putting the 100mm stem I replaced with a 90mm as this would have the effect of flattening me out more but did admit reach could be severely compromised. He thought the back pain could be caused by being too upright. He also said i should find climbing much easier now, which is a relief! Going to test out this new set up properly over 30 miles on Thursday. The amount of exposed seatpost on my 54 has concerned me a bit, but the overall height and the drop to the bars is the same as my other bike, the main difference is the shorter seat tube length on the T7. That said, you have one-to-two inches on me in leg length, so the guy was right. Another question, does anyone know if the seatposts on the Tribans have a limit marker? I have never fully removed my seatpost
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Jun 26, 2013 10:37:43 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 10:37:43 GMT
Indeed, if my legs weren't so long the 54 would be perfect for me. As it is I now have to make the best from a less than ideal situation.
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