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Post by Paulinblack on Apr 7, 2017 7:17:34 GMT
When I first started cycling wearing SPDs I found that after 40-50 miles the soles of my feet feet became painful on the ball of my feet through to my toes. The best way to describe it was as a bruised cramping pain. I always pictured it in my mind as the scene from American Werewolf in London when David watches his hand as he transforms into a werewolf: I swapped to a pair of Shimano ro88's with Keo Look cleats. I found that I still got similar problems, but nowhere near as bad. Yesterday, when I bagged a Fondo, I had that bruised/cramping feeling on the bottom of my feet again. I think that my problems could be exacerbated by ill fitting shoes. I have wide feet and can't tolerate narrow stuff like Adidas trainers etc. I normally by wide fitting 11/11.5 shoes. The Shimano's are size 48, which is more like a size 12, but they almost look like flippers as there is a big gap between my toes and the end of the shoes! I thought about buying some Shimano RP3 or RP5 wide fitting shoes, but, they are very white and maybe my problem is with Shimano shoes (which is all that I have ever tried for cycling). So....... 1. Does anyone suffer from similar problems and have you fixed them? 2. Can anyone recommend some comfortable wide fitting road shoes? 3. Where is the best place to go to try them before buying? (Most stuff I have read shows most shoes available on line only)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 9:36:56 GMT
We are all different so advise can be a bit hit and miss. I visited quite a few shops to try on cycling shoes and most were too narrow. I have since acquired a fairly large lump half way along the outside of my left foot following an injury and bodged operation by an incompetent surgeon. I use wide fitting Shimano shoes and have had no problems with tight fitting. I am size 9 civvy shoes and use Shimano size 44 and they fit really well. I wasn't keen on the idea of white shoes but having worn them for the past few years think they look great. The versions I use are R701 (last 4 years) and R088. During my early touring years I had problems with sore feet as you describe but this was down to soft soled footwear on long rides. Long hard climbs were pretty painful. Some manufacturers have a stiffness rating for their shoes. Another thing to consider is the insole and arch support. If you buy from Wiggle you can send them back free of charge for a refund if they don't fit. www.wiggle.co.uk/h/option/returns-ukMy next SPD-SL shoes on the garage shelf are a pair of black glossy FLR F-117 Road Carbon Shoes bought from Merlin. The fit seems spot on. roadcyclinguk.com/gear/buyers-guide-cycling-shoes.html
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Post by Paulinblack on Apr 7, 2017 10:10:06 GMT
I think the problem is that there aren't many shops around me that stock wide fitting cycling shoes - Everything is on line. Agree with you on white. I think they look great and I just cover them with Velotoze when its wet or muddy to keep them looking good. I think my options are limited. So I'm going to try the Wiggle approach and buy a pair of Shimano RP3 wide in a 47 and see what they are like: www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-rp3-spd-sl-road-shoes-wide-fit/That way I can see if a better fitting (length way) shoe makes a difference. I'm already looking to change pedals too, as mine seem to be coming to the end of their life. Not sure whether that will make a difference, but if I combine that with new cleats and make sure that they are adjusted a bit more tightly, that might help.
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Post by Paulinblack on Apr 7, 2017 10:23:24 GMT
May be a silly question, but when you see Peter Sagan tighten up his shoes prior to sprints, what does that actually do?
I set my ratchet so that my feet fit snugly. Tightening them after a couple of hours would be incredibly uncomfortable - In fact, I'm not sure I would be able to.
Should I be setting the ratchet so the shoes are really loose at the beginning of the ride? Could that be causing my problems?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 10:33:24 GMT
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Post by richardw on Apr 7, 2017 10:49:18 GMT
I had exactly the same issue last year and played around for a few weeks sorting it out. I still occasionally get it now when the shoes are a bit too tight but the main problem was the cleats were to far forward creating more pressure and strain on the toe area on the down stroke. I eventually found the perfect placing for the cleat and it was as far back on the shoe as you can get it. I also stuck an extra thin insole in as well. I also then found the ideal ratchet position and then marked the edge of the fastener with tipex just to make sure i get the same tightness each time. Move the cleats and see how you get on.
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Post by Paulinblack on Apr 7, 2017 16:03:12 GMT
I had exactly the same issue last year and played around for a few weeks sorting it out. I still occasionally get it now when the shoes are a bit too tight but the main problem was the cleats were to far forward creating more pressure and strain on the toe area on the down stroke. I eventually found the perfect placing for the cleat and it was as far back on the shoe as you can get it. I also stuck an extra thin insole in as well. I also then found the ideal ratchet position and then marked the edge of the fastener with tipex just to make sure i get the same tightness each time. Move the cleats and see how you get on. I have them as far back as I can get them. I think the fact that I've gone up a size (possibly when I didn't need to) on a narrower version of the shoe is the issue. If I get a better size then I may be able to get the cleats in a better position. I do so much cycling these days that I might as well spend £60 on a new pair of shoes to see if it helps.
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Post by RobP on Apr 7, 2017 20:59:03 GMT
I needed wide fit too and ended up going for the Shimano RC700 wide fit from Evans www.evanscycles.com/shimano-rc700-spd-sl-wide-fit-road-shoes-EV291880Fit much better than previous Btwin ones that I found too narrow and had to go up to size 11 instead of normal 10-10.5 where in the Shimano sizing was spot on a 45 was perfect The are more expensive than what I would have normally gone for but had a load of Clubcard 2 for 1 vouchers so only cost me about £20 cash With Evans you could order into local store on click and collect (no delivery fee) and try on before leaving store. If they don't fit get a refund there and then with no posting back so may be less hassle than complete online order There is also this wide fit Shimano on clearance offer @ £63 www.evanscycles.com/shimano-rp3-wide-fit-road-shoe-EV260930You can also get them price matched so would get them to match wiggles £59 and then try on instore
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Post by Paulinblack on Apr 7, 2017 21:13:41 GMT
I needed wide fit too and ended up going for the Shimano RC700 wide fit from Evans www.evanscycles.com/shimano-rc700-spd-sl-wide-fit-road-shoes-EV291880Fit much better than previous Btwin ones that I found too narrow and had to go up to size 11 instead of normal 10-10.5 where in the Shimano sizing was spot on a 45 was perfect The are more expensive than what I would have normally gone for but had a load of Clubcard 2 for 1 vouchers so only cost me about £20 cash With Evans you could order into local store on click and collect (no delivery fee) and try on before leaving store. If they don't fit get a refund there and then with no posting back so may be less hassle than complete online order There is also this wide fit Shimano on clearance offer @ £63 www.evanscycles.com/shimano-rp3-wide-fit-road-shoe-EV260930You can also get them price matched so would get them to match wiggles £59 and then try on instore Checked with Evans to see if I could do what you said. The chap I spoke to said that I could buy them online and then take them back if they didn't fit. When I challenged the fact that I would only get a credit note, he said he check out options and call me back - He didn't. So I pulled the trigger on the RP3s from Wiggle - Got them for £56.99 price matching with Tweeks.
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Post by Zarch on Apr 8, 2017 10:58:35 GMT
I have wide feet. In running shoes I MUST have 2E shoes, so I was worried about cycling shoes when I started 6 months ago. After much research and not wanting to spend a fortune on Bont and Sidi etc I got these from Wiggle. www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-m089-spd-mountain-bike-shoes-wide-fit/I ordered a few different sizes and sent back (for free) the ones I didn't need. I've only ridden a few hundred miles in the them but i've no issues with the width or fit. I'm really chuffed to have found something that actually fits me. Hope this helps.
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Post by joek1973 on Apr 9, 2017 19:12:13 GMT
I've got wide feet too - I ended up getting Shimano R065 shoes, the B'Twin ones are far too narrow for me, and the ratchet type shoes are too tight over the instep for me. The velcro is much more forgiving and I'm not bothered particularly about power loss/efficiency etc, I'd much rather be comfortable.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 11:32:47 GMT
When I first started cycling wearing SPDs I found that after 40-50 miles the soles of my feet feet became painful on the ball of my feet through to my toes. The best way to describe it was as a bruised cramping pain. I always pictured it in my mind as the scene from American Werewolf in London when David watches his hand as he transforms into a werewolf: I swapped to a pair of Shimano ro88's with Keo Look cleats. I found that I still got similar problems, but nowhere near as bad. Yesterday, when I bagged a Fondo, I had that bruised/cramping feeling on the bottom of my feet again. I think that my problems could be exacerbated by ill fitting shoes. I have wide feet and can't tolerate narrow stuff like Adidas trainers etc. I normally by wide fitting 11/11.5 shoes. The Shimano's are size 48, which is more like a size 12, but they almost look like flippers as there is a big gap between my toes and the end of the shoes! I thought about buying some Shimano RP3 or RP5 wide fitting shoes, but, they are very white and maybe my problem is with Shimano shoes (which is all that I have ever tried for cycling). So....... 1. Does anyone suffer from similar problems and have you fixed them? 2. Can anyone recommend some comfortable wide fitting road shoes? 3. Where is the best place to go to try them before buying? (Most stuff I have read shows most shoes available on line only) Here you go, Paul. www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/protect-yourself-from-cycling-foot-pain-23267/?
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Post by Paulinblack on Apr 23, 2017 12:36:55 GMT
Thanks @davefy .
I'm reaching a bit of a dead end on shoes at the moment. I tried the Shimano RP3 wide fits, taking advantage of Wiggle's return policy. The 47 felt too big but the replacement 46 has just gone back as it was too small. I am considering the Mavic Kysirum Maxi Fit 2, but need the Shimano return to process first.
In the mean time I went out for a 60+mile ride last week and had no issue with my feet - Just an issue with 'popping/bonking'. The thing I did differently there was to add some electrolyte to my drinks.
I need to find some time where I can actually go to a shop and try something on that I like the look of.
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Post by arranj on Apr 23, 2017 14:56:44 GMT
Thanks @davefy . I'm reaching a bit of a dead end on shoes at the moment. I tried the Shimano RP3 wide fits, taking advantage of Wiggle's return policy. The 47 felt too big but the replacement 46 has just gone back as it was too small. I am considering the Mavic Kysirum Maxi Fit 2, but need the Shimano return to process first. In the mean time I went out for a 60+mile ride last week and had no issue with my feet - Just an issue with 'popping/bonking'. The thing I did differently there was to add some electrolyte to my drinks. I need to find some time where I can actually go to a shop and try something on that I like the look of. Wider brands are lake and bontrager, I got some lakes that are brilliant and wide for my hobbit feet!
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