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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2013 21:58:22 GMT
Hi All
Im sure most of us have experienced this problem where people cut us up after overtaking us...
Can a campaign be set up? To make sure people can drive properly still after they have granted a licence. i.e compulsory retests for drivers every 5 years that are under 60. Any drivers 60-70 every 2 years. Drivers over 70 every year.
Any ideas how to get something like this proposed to the right people and have it in place?
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Post by Big Brother on Jul 27, 2013 22:02:34 GMT
Hi Leo and welcome.
It'll never work mate. We ride the roads for free. The motorist pays his road tax and fills his car up with outrageously highly taxed fuel. The government aren't particularly bothered about losing motorists, it's their bread and butter taxwise.
I drive a car and wouldn't fancy the idea of having to take a retest every 5 years. Do they do it anywhere else in the world?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2013 22:30:47 GMT
Hi Redleader. Thank you for the welcome.
Im also a car driver too & hate the cost of fuel and car tax! especially as they don't use our money to repair roads.
I have no idea if any other countries have this kind of retest in force.
I will do some more research on it unless someone else knows the answer.
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Post by robertsims on Jul 27, 2013 22:36:06 GMT
Whilst the idea may have safety merits in reality no government who ever want to be elected again will ever force everyone to retake test every 5 years as well as the practicalities of actually running that many tests.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 0:25:17 GMT
Would be nice if drivers were forced to have a driving lesson every few years at least, not something you have to pass but at least have someone trained to look at your driving tell you what you are doing wrong.
Many drivers are probably completely oblivious to all the bad driving they do.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 9:06:56 GMT
I'm not so sure many drivers, probably myself included would pass a driving test if taken now. Can you honestly tell me you drive the same way today as you did during that 40min test?
The experience of driving and knowledge of dealing with different situations is what makes better drivers. You attain that the more you drive. Re-testing will not improve peoples driving just as everyone taking the test did not prove we're all good drivers.
Part of the problem is the lack of road improvement projects by successive governments and to truly integrate cycling into our roads. We shouldn't have to compete for the same road space. I'm happy to do so and will take the risk, but children and those not so confident shouldn't cycle with fear.
I think the immediate and least costly option is education of all drivers (and cyclists) from the onset. Maybe as early as in schools. Teaching respect for each other on the roads and acknowledging every person has a right to it, would lead to biggest improvement in road safety IMO.
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Post by johnc60 on Jul 28, 2013 21:48:18 GMT
Would be nice if drivers were forced to have a driving lesson every few years at least, not something you have to pass but at least have someone trained to look at your driving tell you what you are doing wrong. Many drivers are probably completely oblivious to all the bad driving they do. Wouldn't necessarily work as driving instructors in my experience are only interested in getting you through the test, not putting safer drivers on the road. In a previous life I started training as a driving instructor thinking that I would be doing my bit for road safety. I gave up when I discovered that you had to teach manoeuvres that put motorcyclists/cyclists at risk. However I did do the advanced motorcycle course and test with an advanced police instructor which was excellent. Finished the course riding faster and safer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 21:53:00 GMT
I'm not so sure many drivers, probably myself included would pass a driving test if taken now. Can you honestly tell me you drive the same way today as you did during that 40min test? The experience of driving and knowledge of dealing with different situations is what makes better drivers. You attain that the more you drive. Re-testing will not improve peoples driving just as everyone taking the test did not prove we're all good drivers. Part of the problem is the lack of road improvement projects by successive governments and to truly integrate cycling into our roads. We shouldn't have to compete for the same road space. I'm happy to do so and will take the risk, but children and those not so confident shouldn't cycle with fear. I think the immediate and least costly option is education of all drivers (and cyclists) from the onset. Maybe as early as in schools. Teaching respect for each other on the roads and acknowledging every person has a right to it, would lead to biggest improvement in road safety IMO. Spot on @cyraxdotnet. Roads are for all, we all need to be aware of that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 22:43:22 GMT
I'm not so sure many drivers, probably myself included would pass a driving test if taken now. Can you honestly tell me you drive the same way today as you did during that 40min test? The experience of driving and knowledge of dealing with different situations is what makes better drivers. You attain that the more you drive. Re-testing will not improve peoples driving just as everyone taking the test did not prove we're all good drivers. Part of the problem is the lack of road improvement projects by successive governments and to truly integrate cycling into our roads. We shouldn't have to compete for the same road space. I'm happy to do so and will take the risk, but children and those not so confident shouldn't cycle with fear. I think the immediate and least costly option is education of all drivers (and cyclists) from the onset. Maybe as early as in schools. Teaching respect for each other on the roads and acknowledging every person has a right to it, would lead to biggest improvement in road safety IMO. I see bad & inconsiderate & rude drivers,cyclist,pedestrians everyday and like your great and viable suggestion "I think the immediate and least costly option is education of all drivers (and cyclists) from the onset. Maybe as early as in schools. Teaching respect for each other on the roads and acknowledging every person has a right to it, would lead to biggest improvement in road safety IMO."
Hope they can introduce this one day,but I know its impossible concerning pedestrians!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2013 4:45:06 GMT
I think once a preliminary driving test has been passed, there should be a probation period of about 2/3 yrs. First yr you would be allowed to drive but with restrictions ( engine size, speed restriction, time curfew, number of people carried in the vehicle) At the end of the first yrs probation period another test. At the end of the whole period an advanced test would taken and once thats passed then you get a full license. Any infringements within the probation period and you'd have to start the year again. The existing test is to short 40mins and then you could go out and get straight in and drive what ever car you wanted. A driving license has to be earned. But alot of people seem to think its their rite to have one.
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Post by captslog on Jul 29, 2013 8:47:10 GMT
Hi Leo and welcome. It'll never work mate. We ride the roads for free. The motorist pays his road tax and fills his car up with outrageously highly taxed fuel. The government aren't particularly bothered about losing motorists, it's their bread and butter taxwise. No, he doesn't. For a start it hasn't been "road tax" for many years, since 1935 or so if I recall without looking it up. And now it's "vehicle excise duty" which is based on the emissions of the car. Sure, a lot of us have to pay it, but not everyone pays the same amount and some nothing at all The idea that the motorist pays for the road and therefore has a right over other users is one of the main factors in the attitude of many, and the cause of a lot of bad feeling towards those who are thought not to pay. When this idea no longer persists in the British psyche we might get more consideration.
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Post by Radchenister on Jul 29, 2013 8:56:34 GMT
I think the irony has been lost here, unless you're perpetuating the facade to educate the hard of thinking .
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Post by captslog on Jul 29, 2013 10:04:56 GMT
I think the irony has been lost here, unless you're perpetuating the facade to educate the hard of thinking . No, I simply missed the irony. Can't get it right all the time.
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