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Post by zoltansocrates on Jul 25, 2013 11:03:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 11:42:49 GMT
Dunno what everyone else thinks, but if that was a car driver people would be screaming for them to go to jail.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 12:07:57 GMT
Well spotted ZS, awful story. It's amazing how people can abdicate total responsibility in the name of something so trivial.
I hope this doesn't trigger a backlash against Strava as the vast majority of users are responsible cyclists first, Strava users second.
@thunderboltsteve, I think he should have gone to prison, it is a shocking story of gross criminal negligence and recklessness.
Sympathies to the family.
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Post by psyclepath on Jul 25, 2013 12:20:33 GMT
I think some people are calling out for him to be jailed. However how likely is it that a car driver would be jailed (in this country, let alone the US) for killing a pedestrian? The cyclist was only doing around the speed limit I presume (30mph), if you kill someone in a car and you are not breaking the speed limit significantly (or it can't be proved), or drunk etc, there is no way you would go to jail in the UK. Where are the calls for justice with regards the driver who mowed down all those people outside a school in Wales the other week? www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/rhoose-lollipop-lady-faces-weeks-4699899Thankfully no one was killed although many will have life changing injuries to deal with. Some stories including a BBC one have even shown sympathy for the driver's "terrifying experience" Bizarre.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 12:40:55 GMT
Traffic lights change. It is the one thing they are known for. Going too fast to stop means you're going too fast.
Sympathy to the family.
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Post by cbrdeano on Jul 25, 2013 12:41:15 GMT
If a car driver was "Racing on a public highway" they would be jailed.
He was racing against the clock - racing is racing in the eyes of the law - doen't matter if it was against the clock or against another bike/car.
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Post by psyclepath on Jul 25, 2013 13:02:51 GMT
If a car driver was "Racing on a public highway" they would be jailed. He was racing against the clock - racing is racing in the eyes of the law - doen't matter if it was against the clock or against another bike/car. I very much doubt they would be automatically jailed, and it is very difficult to prove. Racing against the clock isn't "racing", any more than trying to get to work on time is "racing". "Racing" under Uk law is only applicable to dangerous driving charges anyway, so firstly it couldn't be applied to cyclists (in this country), and secondly I don't think the definition is quite as clear as you seem to think. I'm not defending the guy, he was 100% in the wrong, but the case has only achieved any prominence because it is unusual. It's the same in the UK, on average a cyclist kills a pedestrian once every 2 or 3 years, next time it happens witness the outcry and backlash against cyclists, ie calls for licensing, insurance, jail time etc. Whilst the daily carnage on the roads by motor vehicles continues day in , day out and no one bats an eyelid. It has become normalised.
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