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Post by Rocket on Mar 9, 2016 14:08:36 GMT
A shorter stem would be the correct solution here. You don't move the saddle to alter reach as it then makes your leg fit wrong and will give different problems.
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Post by duplo on Mar 9, 2016 18:56:11 GMT
A shorter stem would be the correct solution here. You don't move the saddle to alter reach as it then makes your leg fit wrong and will give different problems. That assumes that the seat was in the right position in the first place. I haven't had any problems since doing it. But you're right simply shoving the seat all the way forward can create other problems. The OP should maybe consider a proper bike fit session
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Post by Radchenister on Mar 9, 2016 19:36:42 GMT
The OP should be able to get a fair way by doing the majority of the research himself - if he can't crack it himself, then perhaps a bike fit is in order but I very much doubt it's so complex an issue he can't make headway with it himself. Just try this and just try that isn't really going to work though, needs to be some sort of methodology to it. Checking out YouTube first is a good idea, learn the principles of 'the chain' and the step by step decisions that form the basis of their holistic bike fit; if they get close with the basic fit, they can then tweak it a bit over time. Reckon anyone can get near to what a bike fitter would do without too much effort but can short cut this by visiting a bona fide service if they prefer of course. I guess that all the people who've paid for a bike fit (rather than work it out themselves), will probably tell me that there's some form of secret mysticism or something that they learn at bike fit school. I also presume that people like Rocket here (who only ride 12,000 miles a year in all seasons after all) must just get lucky with their fit or something? Anyway, perhaps the OP could start here ...
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Post by duplo on Mar 9, 2016 20:04:12 GMT
If your bike doesn't fit you'll know about it in the first 50 miles. 12000 not required.
OP, if you do make changes take the correct Allen keys with you when you head out, a little 'Fettling on the fly' might be handy.
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Post by Radchenister on Mar 9, 2016 20:07:07 GMT
You didn't .
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Post by isg520 on Mar 10, 2016 12:36:32 GMT
The OP should be able to get a fair way by doing the majority of the research himself - if he can't crack it himself, then perhaps a bike fit is in order but I very much doubt it's so complex an issue he can't make headway with it himself. Just try this and just try that isn't really going to work though, needs to be some sort of methodology to it. Checking out YouTube first is a good idea, learn the principles of 'the chain' and the step by step decisions that form the basis of their holistic bike fit; if they get close with the basic fit, they can then tweak it a bit over time. Reckon anyone can get near to what a bike fitter would do without too much effort but can short cut this by visiting a bona fide service if they prefer of course. I guess that all the people who've paid for a bike fit (rather than work it out themselves), will probably tell me that there's some form of secret mysticism or something that they learn at bike fit school. I also presume that people like Rocket here (who only ride 12,000 miles a year in all seasons after all) must just get lucky with their fit or something? Anyway, perhaps the OP could start here ... Many thanks for taking time out to reply and your suggestions. I'd have never thought about researching the subject myself before posting, I'll get straight on to that. As you say, nerve damage to the neck is not a complex issue so there should be a plethora of specific information in relation to the subject and its links cycling available at a glance. I just thought perhaps discussing it on a "friendly" forum where others may be experiencing similar problems may have been useful, but by posting my question before exhausting all other avenues and every other piece of information on the internet has clearly irritated you. My apologies if this is the case
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Post by Radchenister on Mar 10, 2016 13:46:16 GMT
Nope, not really, but we do have the odd post like this, where you may get a bum steer and I'm just trying to make sure the ducks are in line for you, tinkering with little things isn't very productive if not seeing the bigger picture IME - we've got past the days where we'd spend 10 pages getting nowhere with advice (I hope) - folks here have a fair amount of experience in getting to the right solution fairly rapidly now. This sort of thread can be a bit irritating though, as they track off into spurious places, I will agree on that - but hey, no big deal if you're just after a chin wag on it, if it's a serious concern then I'd like to think you get solid advice that actually means something. It's a bit like looking up symptoms to diagnose illness on the internet, within 10 minutes you'll be convinced you're near death and every Tom, Dick and Harry (or female equivalent) will have a view if you post it on something like www.mumsnet.com . I reckon if I was after eradicating a serious pain issue (rather than the niggles we all get, particularly when tired, or a bit off form, riding in damp cold weather etc) - I'd start at the beginning and work my way through the sequence of decisions to see where I can get myself ... or if it's really serious, then get some specialist help, as this forum is unlikely to solve something of a medical nature that might require physio / an exercise program / rehabilitation - even perhaps special bike adaptation beyond the stuff in these links (bespoke crank lengths, odd angled stems etc). I had a rotator cuff injury last summer, 2 doctor visits, then some physio follow up - I didn't come on here to chat it over, as I knew it needed specialists to help get it sorted; we have discussed minor fit issues until the cows come home though of course in the past. If it's serious, then best seek advice from someone like the guy on the second video, i.e. someone who isn't just going to apply a fit like you're the next potential GB TT World Champ (most of the fitters in this neck of the woods). If not serious, then chat away, don't have to listen to me .
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Post by Radchenister on Mar 10, 2016 14:08:38 GMT
... although that's not fair to bike fitters, the good ones will sort you out, whether you're a full on racer or a leisure cyclist.
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Post by namegoeshere on Jul 4, 2016 13:44:36 GMT
I''ve been having real problems with this recently, anything above about 2 hrs becomes really uncomfortable mostly around the shoulder and neck but also the...saddle...area. Been reading around and looking up bike fit ideas specifically where body proportions aren't average - I'm 5ft7, but I have long legs and a short reach. Turns out this could be the worst shape to be for a good bike fit! See the following link and skip to body proportions: bikedynamics.co.uk/bikesizingbd.htm#1So that could also be your issue! Not sure what I'm going to do next - already got my seat as far forward as is reasonable - don't want to start getting knee issues - and my stem is 90mm and flipped with spacers maxed out. Might try attaching reins to the handlebars so I can lean back a bit more, see how that works
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Post by r0b1et on Jul 4, 2016 14:24:44 GMT
I'm 5'7 and all leg too. I've got more flexible though and have been dropping, I'm now flipped down and spacers on top! Some work on flexibility will help. Try yoga... I feel like a berk, but it definitely did some good.
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Post by namegoeshere on Jul 4, 2016 14:28:01 GMT
I'm 5'7 and all leg too. I've got more flexible though and have been dropping, I'm now flipped down and spacers on top! Some work on flexibility will help. Try yoga... I feel like a berk, but it definitely did some good. Yeah, I need to work on that actually - used to do a fair bit of yoga and be pretty flexible, but I've let it slide in the last couple of years! Out of interest and frame geometry notwithstanding, can I ask what frame and stem size you go for?
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Post by r0b1et on Jul 4, 2016 16:05:53 GMT
I'm 5'7 and all leg too. I've got more flexible though and have been dropping, I'm now flipped down and spacers on top! Some work on flexibility will help. Try yoga... I feel like a berk, but it definitely did some good. Yeah, I need to work on that actually - used to do a fair bit of yoga and be pretty flexible, but I've let it slide in the last couple of years! Out of interest and frame geometry notwithstanding, can I ask what frame and stem size you go for? I have a t3 54, with a 90cm 6deg stem. And my Rose is a 53cm (more genuine measurement), also 90cm (judged to get very similar reach), but I'm lower on it as it's my more racy bike.
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