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Mar 22, 2015 20:43:55 GMT
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Post by fit4fifty on Mar 22, 2015 20:43:55 GMT
I have decided to step up my t5a to get a compact 105. I'm not sure whether to jump on the reduced Alur at £600 or step outside and look at a similar priced Cube peloton race at £650. The cube has an 11-32 10sp 105. I quite like the idea of that set up. Could I upgrade the alur cassette easily? Tbh my loyalty leans to the alur and they don't charge extra for the cyclescheme purchase method either. Any opinions on points I may have missed.
Thanks
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Post by ChrisD on Mar 22, 2015 21:57:03 GMT
I think the Alur is a great bike at that price. You could always try out the stock cassette and see how you get on. I'm sure chas might be able to chip in to let you know if it's possible to go as big as 32 on the back with the stock rear derailleur.
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Post by fit4fifty on Mar 22, 2015 22:11:23 GMT
That's a good point. Also the gaps may be too great on a 10spd. The only other concerns I have are the direct brakes. It's just such a good price for a very well spec'd bike
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Post by ChrisD on Mar 22, 2015 22:15:27 GMT
That's a good point. Also the gaps may be too great on a 10spd. The only other concerns I have are the direct brakes. It's just such a good price for a very well spec'd bike The 32 cassette might only be needed if you've got some really serious hills that you ride regularly, otherwise 34/28 will probabaly get you up most things, and the stock cassette may have tighter intervals as you suggest. I think the Alur owners on the forum here are positive about the rear direct mount bike. It might not be everyone's cup of tea but I don't recall anyone criticising braking power and have read positive report about the brake staying clear of crud and the like.
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Post by Paulinblack on Mar 22, 2015 22:30:39 GMT
If it was me, I think I would wait for the new range to come out. The T5 you have is the same as mine and it is a bloomin good bike! I personally don't like the Alur, simply because of where the back brake is. I noted with interest the new Triban range that it due out in May. For me, the sell off of the Mach 700's came 12 months too early. They were an absolute steal, but beyond my capabilities at the time and too close to having purchased the T5 to justify another bike.
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Post by erictherat on Mar 22, 2015 22:49:02 GMT
just a thought - if you like your t5 - maybe buy a 105 grupo to bolt onto it. many folks here have done that and are very happy - see the great 105 thread. save you a few pennies too.
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Post by Mehran on Mar 22, 2015 23:15:41 GMT
or just freshen up the bike. new bartape, new cables and maybe a bit of bike bling? carbon seat if your arse is up to it aliexpress have so cracking deals. going to need to start a great Microshift thread.
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Post by ghoddlemighty on Mar 22, 2015 23:25:12 GMT
That cube is a great bike if you can get it for £650. You won't go wrong with either bike though. Personally I believe an 11-32 is better than a 12-28 set up, but that is just personal choice.
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Post by chas on Mar 23, 2015 8:35:00 GMT
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Post by r0b1et on Mar 23, 2015 15:34:12 GMT
Most people who feel they need an 11 should work on increasing their cadence Damn it man... I was thinking going semi-compact was the answer... but I'm not convinced my cadence is the issue, so much as the speed I'm still pedaling at going down hills.
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Post by chas on Mar 24, 2015 8:07:17 GMT
The Alur has the short cage version so in theory 30t is the max sprocket size (32 may work in practice). Interestingly the new Mach 720 has the long cage version with 36/52 compact chainset. r0b1et it's people like yourself that made me qualify my statement with 'most'. I must admit the semi compact looks useful.
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Mar 24, 2015 9:10:13 GMT
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Post by Radchenister on Mar 24, 2015 9:10:13 GMT
My bike was skittish again today in 50/12 getting into the mid 50 kmh range, slightly damp, Zaffiros and Ksyriums on for the first time, pressure perhaps a little high and tyres perhaps not as supple as others - only happens on one rough spot when descending the fast 6% A road on the segment to home; almost bouncing due to high cadence doesn't help, I just eased off but may well go to 11-28 now the weather's improving gradually. There's a purpose for big gears but it's not often you get them spinning up beyond the capacity of 50/12. If TTing I'd go standard double or perhaps semi for undulating terrain, as I can tap out high cadences OK but I'm not into doing that for long trekking days into Wales and the Cotswolds, as a compact is just so practical. Mike Cotty of the Col Collective gives similar advice and for proper big climbs suggests going as low as 32 for some 'just in case' - which I can see the sense of if you fly out to the Alps - not so sure for the UK. It's very much an 'it depends' subject still I reckon, even with more choices that we get these days. Must make making recommendations in the store a nightmare for you chas and explains why pro teams change the set up when necessary.
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Post by chas on Mar 24, 2015 11:06:24 GMT
I think the standard gearing through the range is a good compromise for most people most of the time with triples on the 8/9s bikes, compacts on 10s and semi compact on 11 (I'll check what ratio's they are later). Very long very hilly rides may need lower and racing speeds higher, but people doing those will know what they want and a different cassette isn't the end of the world. It just isn't practical for Decathlon to offer the sort of customisation you can get in specialist shops with our 'off the peg' range but I think the 2015 road bike range covers most bases from beginner through touring and sportive to race.
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Post by Radchenister on Mar 24, 2015 11:34:19 GMT
Just been looking at the Mach 720 - it's pretty sorted for flat, through undulating, onto hilly(ish) - buy another cassette and you're fine for silly steep as well. Comes in at 52 / 36 & 11-28 as standard, with adaptation to a bottom gear of 36 / 32 = 1.125 possible with the rear mech' for more challenging steep stuff, which is a slightly easier gear than I and a few others have on our compacts at 34 / 30 - this got me up the Tumble OK and deals with 25 - 30% peaks around the wilds if necessary. Not bad at all in terms of flexibility that, similar stories with others.
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Post by beatnik69 on Mar 24, 2015 12:13:13 GMT
The Alur has the short cage version so in theory 30t is the max sprocket size (32 may work in practice). Interestingly the new Mach 720 has the long cage version with 36/52 compact chainset. r0b1et it's people like yourself that made me qualify my statement with 'most'. I must admit the semi compact looks useful. Chas, I was thinking of changing the cassette on my Alur. The options closest to my current set up, in 105 are 11-28 or 12-27. I take it there would be no issue with the 11-28 and the existing rear mech?
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