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Oct 13, 2014 12:22:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 12:22:26 GMT
Oh right, it's only a Cat 4 though ! [ I am the wheezy wimp from school
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Oct 13, 2014 12:39:19 GMT
Post by Radchenister on Oct 13, 2014 12:39:19 GMT
I'm joking but that's one not to do unless it's sunny!
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Oct 13, 2014 15:41:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 15:41:55 GMT
Another sufferer with exercise induced asthma, after Sunday mornings ride my lungs felt like they'd become a tight and turned into a refrigerator for the rest of the day whilst unpleasant didn't really effect me overall.
Breathing through a buff sounds a good idea that I'd never thought of, saw quite a few people out with one on one and it still hadn't occured to me it might help!
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Oct 13, 2014 17:04:27 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 17:04:27 GMT
Just getting over a bout of asthma at the moment. I get it harsh enough once or twice a year. An extra puff on the blue inhaler prior to setting off helps, and make sure to take it with you. Keeping the cold air off helps too. I usually use a buff or a neck scarf in the cold and pull it up over my mouth and nose. This takes away the sharpness of the cold and lets me breathe easier.
Other than that, pick your routes depending on how you feel. Do local laps rather than a long route that takes you far away from home in case you start to suffer.
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Oct 13, 2014 17:26:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 17:26:59 GMT
Yes I always take my inhaler out.
Seems like I make have actually started an original thread !
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Oct 13, 2014 18:20:06 GMT
Post by Radchenister on Oct 13, 2014 18:20:06 GMT
You have, what I'd like to throw in, is let's not turn into hypochondriacs, I don't class myself as Asthmatic but can max my lungs out, feel like the tubes are giving up on me and in cold weather this might kick in sooner than later ... doesn't mean we start chucking substances in straight away ... Lance can explain where that ends up, drugs on top of other drugs to regulate your system. Really liked Rob's comment on his issues getting easier / less, the fitter he got . There once was a woman who swallowed a fly ...
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Oct 13, 2014 18:55:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 18:55:34 GMT
Inhalers on the go. As marketed by Mr Froome.
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Oct 13, 2014 19:02:29 GMT
Post by Radchenister on Oct 13, 2014 19:02:29 GMT
You'll have read the Wiki link above I'm sure, as it references it. I've not got a problem with medication done well, just like to think it was genuinely used and needed (or vicky versy) ... but then I'm an idealist .
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Post by r0b1et on Oct 13, 2014 23:05:09 GMT
Radchenister, asthema is a funny beast to me, as a teen I'd get regular attacks for no apparent reasons, with little link to exercise (I could do intense support with no trouble sometimes, but then have full attacks walking between classrooms). Before my Mrs buggered off and I took up cycling, it had started causing trouble again, enough I was on the steroid inhaler every day. Once she left, I wanted to be fitter and discussed cycling with Dr. They were very pro me cycling, I can't run due to old ankle injury, said to be careful, but it was likely to help my asthema. To right, within 4 months I had stopped the steroids. Now I always have my blue inhaler in my saddle bag, but I've only had to use it once in 6 weeks since back from work trip, after climbing Streatley hill, even then I'd have probably been OK, but seemed better safe than sorry. At my asthema review recently my lung capacity was "about where average people are" far above any previous measurement. Odd that I've never really noticed the cold having much effect.
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Post by chappers on Oct 14, 2014 13:35:19 GMT
I always have my blue inhaler in my saddle bag I have always had asthma and I have to keep my bluey with me - its a safety net/comfort thing.
Most rides I won't need it at all. With the weather on the turn, I may need it.
Cycling has helped me in so many aspects - made new friends/found a new sport/fitter than I've ever been & I can breath better than I have in years (partly due to packing in the smokes too).
All these things have created a better me and that I am grateful for.
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Oct 14, 2014 21:00:16 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 21:00:16 GMT
Did 16 miles tonight and forgot my inhaler. No pre-ride puff either. Just about managed. My chest tightened on a few occasions but dialling back the effort for a minute or two subsided it. As I get back in the saddle regularly I reckon the issue will go away until my next trigger event.
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Oct 15, 2014 14:08:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 14:08:16 GMT
Great feedback everyone and a generally interesting thread In the end , in short what a bunch of mutley wheezing sounding wimps we really are. The only point I add is that my Asthema for some years was a lot better , unfortunately it worsened again have my meds .. I do however strongly believe that the cycling in the longer run will help. I am now actively looking to get in the base miles and just take it easy or perhaps a break when I feel the ol lungs kicking off .
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Oct 15, 2014 14:32:37 GMT
Post by Radchenister on Oct 15, 2014 14:32:37 GMT
Easy, cold weather can sometimes exacerbate maxing out lungs / irritating the bronchial system - not belittling full blown asthma and the article I linked earlier is careful to suggest that sometimes it's under diagnosed; I suspect that other times coughs and irritations are over diagnosed - to me it seems logical that if you go out and force loads of cold air through your system with hard exercise when not fit / conditioned, it is bound to have effects (perhaps it will have effects even if you are fit / conditioned, a bit like saddle sores can effect some people and happens sometimes and not others). I should add that on a few occasions when really pushing it, both at the Velodrome or on roads in the summer, I have had similar maxed out lung issues but with no discomfort or irritation, I've just simply reached the limits of my capacity.
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Oct 15, 2014 15:04:55 GMT
Post by Radchenister on Oct 15, 2014 15:04:55 GMT
What's not been mentioned is breathing technique - have a read here: www.cptips.com/climb.htmSummary - controlled breathing is a skill when climbing, panting needs to be controlled to be deeper and longer to get the lungs working more efficiently; so a bit of an idea in addition (no idea if any good); air gets warmed more by the nose and throat that open mouthed breathing apparently, so it follows that straight gulping can pump more cold air in, than when keeping the breathing regulated thought the nose, so the buff over the face might help keep the edge off the cold and also use the nose more, as well as holding an easier pace / breathing rate - this to me probably explains where the fitness thing kicks in, as when you're fitter, you're less likely to be panting away and exacerbating other issues. Just a theory, no idea if accurate - do we have any Doctors on the forum?
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Post by william39 on Oct 15, 2014 15:17:29 GMT
Interesting thread this one. Chris Froome's use of the inhaler in the Dauphine bizarrely caued a bit of a scandal in the French press then there was talk that 40% of the pro peloton are classed as asthmatic so able to use ventolin.
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