|
Post by Radchenister on Aug 21, 2015 10:56:03 GMT
Simple question ... simple answer?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 11:09:01 GMT
Perhaps eventually as it will eventually become difficult to buy a decent specced bike that doesn't come wih discs. When the pro's embrace it, the mass market will follow. Plus it will keep my rims shinier.
|
|
|
Post by Radchenister on Aug 21, 2015 11:17:25 GMT
I can see the plus in wet weather, also for long alpine style descents and commuting but not convinced for summer based leisure riding. I'll likely come round over time when the trickle down price is right - assuming that it will come down but do wonder if it's a clever way of raising the overall price of braking set ups generally. Perhaps I'm a Luddite, hell, we may come round to small electric engines as well ?
|
|
|
Post by Rocket on Aug 21, 2015 11:33:58 GMT
Replacing wheels because the braking surfaces have worn too thin will be a thing of the past. As long as the bearings in the hub are replaceable and the wheel does not suffer spoke or wheel damage then the wheels will last the life of the bike. Of course if the cost of new discs is similar to the cost of new wheels then there will be no financial benefit for those of us using cheap wheels.
|
|
|
Post by Radchenister on Aug 21, 2015 11:46:44 GMT
Similar view to yours, mainly down to price v level of refinement in my mind, is it really worth it - plus serviceability, also not wanting to have to buy new kit just because it's the latest thing. I could see me taking a couple of years to head that way but who knows what the future holds. Over to B'TWIN to ponder the art of the possible whilst maintaining good vfm. Can't see it being wise on entry level kit for a while yet, at what point does it become a given that it's on board a new bike, considering say the spec' of the Mach, would it add to the price, should it be on next year's equivalent model at a slightly raised price or are we happy with that sort of package as it is?
|
|
|
Post by stevo on Aug 21, 2015 11:47:51 GMT
Test on 'tinternet' indicates that the only real advantage is when conditions are wet...............so in this Country, that seems to be a big advantage?! I can confirm that the fairly budget discs on my MTB work as well, if not better than the Ultegra with swiss stop pads on my Planet X.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 12:09:30 GMT
Undecided for me.
I looked at a few bikes with disc when I made my new purchase last month (specifically a Giant Defy). I decided against getting that bike for a few reasons. Having never ridden a bike with discs I don't know how good they are compared to well maintained rim brakes. I also consciously ride at an appropriate speed for the conditions, i.e. not so fast that I can't not stop in an emergency if needed.
GCN did a rather unscientific test recently and they demonstrated a difference in braking distances between rim and discs. Their conclusion was something like, if you have the option to stop quicker and more consistently why not use it (disc being better than rim).
One concern I have is standardisation of kit. I understand the 'flat-mount' system designed by Shimano has been adopted by Sram but will others follow and are the hub/rotor connections all the same?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 13:07:36 GMT
Undecided as well. At this moment in time, I have no thoughts of another bike (shed full) but never say never. If/when that changes discs maybe an option i would consider...
|
|
|
Post by william39 on Aug 21, 2015 13:08:35 GMT
Open minded, I have had a few scary moments with my brakes recently. The stock brakes seem to work less well since I fitted the Tiagra shifters but Tiagra calipers seem hard to find at the moment. I am very lucky in that traffic wise I have to stop very little but a few times recently when crossing the small towns on my route I have nearly smashed into the back of cars stopping unexpectedly for pedestrian crossings. Not sure if it is down to my brake set up though. I can say that when I tried a bike with Ultegra I found the brakes significantly better than my stock B'Twin/Tektro.
I can see the potential benefit of discs for commuters or those riding urban routes regularly. Never ridden mountain bikes so never tried discs., so difficult to say what will happen in the future.
|
|
|
Post by lenodd on Aug 21, 2015 13:22:29 GMT
My next commuter will have disc brakes, so I've been looking at CX bikes as they tend to have it as standard. It's less of a why? more of a why not? for me.
|
|
|
Post by Radchenister on Aug 21, 2015 13:35:52 GMT
Servicing, cost, reliability, compatibility with other components, being tied into certain brands . Saying that, the main reason I would like them if commuting would be reduced rim wear and being able to slap the brakes on when half asleep on a wet winter morning without needing to wash rims every outing; I have had the scary feel of pads on wet rims doing not a lot at first touch a few times (not an issue on quiet roads, as they soon bed in and you squeeze a bit harder), whether that would actually stop you hitting something is debatable, I suppose it gives you a split second more bite (likewise, I've locked up perhaps 3 times when emergency stopping with blocks in various conditions), to benefit fully, I think I would need wider tyres on for starters.
|
|
fophop
Peloton Rider
Posts: 22
|
Post by fophop on Aug 21, 2015 13:36:04 GMT
I've had discs on my mountain bike for years now, best brakes I've ever had, so I'm firmly in the eventually camp, however, saying that, the last couple of times I had to stop quickly, the brakes worked perfectly and stopped the wheels, unfortunately said wheels/tyres kept skidding along the tarmac!
|
|
|
Post by lenodd on Aug 21, 2015 13:49:29 GMT
Servicing, cost, reliability, compatibility with other components, being tied into certain brands . Saying that, the main reason I would like them if commuting would be reduced rim wear and being able to slap the brakes on when half asleep on a wet winter morning without needing to wash rims every outing; I have had the scary feel of pads on wet rims doing not a lot at first touch a few times (not an issue on quiet roads, as they soon bed in and you squeeze a bit harder), whether that would actually stop you hitting something is debatable, I suppose it gives you a split second more bite (likewise, I've locked up perhaps 3 times when emergency stopping with pads), to benefit fully, I think I would need wider tyres on for starters. true enough - I think a cross bike would give me all of that. Are they unreliable vs calipers? I think they're better. Servicing and cost maybe, but compatibility and brand applies to calipers too. I want quick accurate stopping in winter and discs would do that. I was looking at the triban 540 as a winter bike but the long drop calipers just make the braking worse.
|
|
|
Post by goffski on Aug 21, 2015 14:15:59 GMT
Not too fussed on the Summer bike but think the next bike i buy for commuting and winter use i'd go for discs. Had discs on the MTB for a good few years and the stopping power is much better in the wet. Just don't like to ride the MTB anymore, rode it the pub the other week for the first time in ages, felt very strange.
|
|
|
Post by Radchenister on Aug 21, 2015 14:22:03 GMT
When I say reliability, I think I mean long term operation, servicing and parts / maintenance, but no experience of servicing or owning them (my MTB is just that bit too old), so I'm just thinking aloud. I do know that not a lot of effort goes into changing brake cables and blocks at present, a bit of regular rapid cleaning and occasional lubing is all I do - I've no idea about how discs pan out.
|
|