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Post by jondxxx on Dec 12, 2014 16:20:35 GMT
Worth watching this episode of fake Britain if you are thinking of buying off eBay link
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Post by phred1812 on Dec 12, 2014 17:08:03 GMT
Thanks for bringing this to our attention jondxxx. I was tempted to buy some carbon handlebars recently off Alibaba but thought better of it. If we must buy fake stuff then its best to stick to clothing. Its not good news for the the genuine manufacturers or their employees however. Its one thing selling cheap cycling jerseys etc but to brand them Castelli and the like is naughty and I don't want to collude with this practice
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Post by ChrisD on Dec 12, 2014 17:50:04 GMT
Worth watching this episode of fake Britain if you are thinking of buying off eBay linkMany thanks for posting this. Compulsory viewing for us all I'd say.
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Post by robertsims on Dec 12, 2014 19:17:35 GMT
Buying fake clothes is one thing but if it's rubbish you don't crash!fake parts however could cause serious damage to you!
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Post by baz on Dec 12, 2014 19:34:12 GMT
jesus, and there's me just ordered a set of carbon forks !
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Post by Rocket on Dec 12, 2014 19:46:34 GMT
A big name on something is no indication of quality but it's a sure fire indication of excessive price. If they checked everything then they would not be able to produce the quantities they need and the cost would be even higher. Best way to check carbon fibre is to X-ray it, not visually inspect. If your forks have no branding on them then they are not pretending to be something they are not. It does not mean they will be rubbish. Where does everybody think the branded stuff is actually made?
Did you know that Kellogs make cornflakes for the supermarkets as well as sell them under their own brand?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 10:35:36 GMT
That's why I buy Morrisons Crunchy Nut half the price
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Post by chas on Dec 13, 2014 11:25:40 GMT
It is a fact that many high quality branded parts are made in China, and likely that the same factories produces other parts of similar quality. There are also many other factories copying those parts and producing them cheaper - you can always make something cheaper by cutting corners. The problem is knowing which one you're buying from.
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Post by phred1812 on Dec 13, 2014 11:40:03 GMT
A big name on something is no indication of quality but it's a sure fire indication of excessive price. If they checked everything then they would not be able to produce the quantities they need and the cost would be even higher. Best way to check carbon fibre is to X-ray it, not visually inspect. If your forks have no branding on them then they are not pretending to be something they are not. It does not mean they will be rubbish. Where does everybody think the branded stuff is actually made? Did you know that Kellogs make cornflakes for the supermarkets as well as sell them under their own brand? Absolutely agree. I always buy supermarket branded stuff in preference to the major brands. As you say it usually comes from the same factory and is of similar quality. That's not really the point here though. The "FSA" products featured on the TV programme were clearly counterfeit and pretending to be something they were not. A company like FSA lives on its reputation and and has to conform to international safety standards. This inevitably adds to the production cost. Its easy for some unscrupulous entrepreneur to knock off some replicas in a sweat shop somewhere for a fraction of the cost and undercut the brands but it doesn't make the products good value. Clearly not for the people featured on the TV. Its a different situation if the products are unbranded or carry some unlikely sounding name. You can pay your money and take a chance. They could turn out to be a real bargain. btw How many people have access to X-ray equipment to test their carbon components?
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Post by Radchenister on Dec 13, 2014 11:47:11 GMT
It's also worth noting that the more established suppliers ensure quality control in the supply chain via traceability plus testing with durability, impact, in use load sensors and various other clever stuff. Wish I could have had longer in the tech areas at the B'TWIN village to learn more when I visited but time was short.
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Post by Rocket on Dec 13, 2014 12:54:22 GMT
btw How many people have access to X-ray equipment to test their carbon components? I got scoffed at for having full welding equipment so lets not go there
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