lfc383
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Post by lfc383 on Jun 2, 2014 13:01:23 GMT
Hi,
I'm looking at purchasing either the triban 500 or 500se and would like some advice on which one to go for. I've been riding to and from work (6.5 miles each way) for about 15 months now on a 10 year old mtb and I think its about time for an upgrade.
Whilst money isn't a problem I'm thinking of going for the 500se and using the difference to purchase new pedals and shoes but didn't know if there was any bike specification reason for a relative amateur, why I should be investing in the 500 over the 500se??
Oh and if I've posted to the wrong section would someone mind moving it to a more appropriate section.
Many thanks
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Post by william39 on Jun 2, 2014 13:40:15 GMT
If you can find a 500SE with the Sora crankset (first 1000 have them apparently) then I would snap it up. If just commuting like that then the 3A would suit you fine also but the extra Β£80 for carbon forks and improved cranset/bb is worth it.
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Post by Radchenister on Jun 2, 2014 13:41:38 GMT
Horses for courses both are good, the SE's group set is not quite as good but functional; 8 speed v 9 speed, otherwise not a huge difference. The pricing is an issue IMO; although all parts wear out and will need replacing at some point, you're more likely to replace with 9 speed Sora or a 10 speed compact (maybe even 11 by the time it's necessary, depending on deals). Bit like buying a 'sport' or 'standard' in everyday cars - if pootling around relaxed / normally, it will make not one jot of difference in the practicalities of getting from A to B.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 13:50:46 GMT
Hi, My thoughts would be go down to decathlon and have a look at both of them. Give them a ring and see if they have them both in your size. If you cant tell the difference and like them both looks wise I'd get the 500se & as you said use the extra for other bits.
I picked up the 500se last week and was also looking at the 500 but they didnt have any my size and the Alur 700(costs a lot more but an amazing looking bike) but got sick of waiting and got the SE. I'd recommend the 500se to anyone as a first road bike. I think it looks good, rides great & for the price I personally think its a bargain!
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lfc383
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Post by lfc383 on Jun 2, 2014 13:58:02 GMT
Horses for courses both are good, the SE's group set is not quite as good but functional; 8 speed v 9 speed, otherwise not a huge difference. The pricing is an issue IMO; although all parts wear out and will need replacing at some point, you're more likely to replace with 9 speed Sora or a 10 speed compact (maybe even 11 by the time it's necessary, depending on deals). Bit like buying a 'sport' or 'standard' in everyday cars - if pootling around relaxed / normally, it will make not one jot of difference in the practicalities of getting from A to B. Sorry Newbie question, When you state that pricing is an issue, is that because you can't upgrade the se to 9 speed without having to modify other bits such as the shifters and the derailleur?
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Post by william39 on Jun 2, 2014 14:00:11 GMT
I think they have missed a trick really by not offering a 500 with either Sora or Tiagra compact double. Would have then been a good upgrade for those who started on the 3 or 3A and have progressed to wanting a double. The big price jump to the Alur is offputting.
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Post by william39 on Jun 2, 2014 14:02:56 GMT
Horses for courses both are good, the SE's group set is not quite as good but functional; 8 speed v 9 speed, otherwise not a huge difference. The pricing is an issue IMO; although all parts wear out and will need replacing at some point, you're more likely to replace with 9 speed Sora or a 10 speed compact (maybe even 11 by the time it's necessary, depending on deals). Bit like buying a 'sport' or 'standard' in everyday cars - if pootling around relaxed / normally, it will make not one jot of difference in the practicalities of getting from A to B. Sorry Newbie question, When you state that pricing is an issue, is that because you can't upgrade the se to 9 speed without having to modify other bits such as the shifters? Upgrading SE to 9 speed would require new shifters, there is the possibility of going 2x8 though some of us have done. With the Sora crankset on the SE at the moment you would already have the required hollowtech bb in place.
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Post by Radchenister on Jun 2, 2014 14:05:15 GMT
It is a bargain but we need to be a little careful with the 'do as I did' advice ... it's a bit crystal ball gazing but if there's a feeling that someone will get more into road riding seriously as a sport / exercise regime, rather than occasional transport and leisure (fine line here), then the Sora and 9 speed will be a bonus to smoother gear changes and cadence, keeping you in the right slot for improving your riding skills for a bit longer; by this I mean you won't feel the need to change group set as quickly. A sound strategy would be to ride an SE solidly for a year or so and go to 10 speed compact next summer - if you're on 9 speed Sora, the need to step up may not happen as it will suit you through a longer development slot. We've seen this happen on here amongst a few of the longer term members on T3's, T5's and T3a's.
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Post by Radchenister on Jun 2, 2014 14:14:26 GMT
Parallel posts, answered by william39 - agree on the double / compact options. The Hallowtech bb are better in terms of wear and tear through bad weather than the Ounce set up and also from working on via a technical spec' perspective (v square taper) ... don't know much about the Claris though. Personally, wouldn't step back from 2 x 10 now if I could avoid it, I could stomach 2 x 9 but 2 x 8 would be a step too far down the ladder for my liking (OK as temp measure) ... hence why if I was in 2013 now, knowing how I'd develop, I'd have bought the T5 (remembering that back in 2012 the T5 wasn't what we know now and more like the T7 or Alur) ... now we're in 2014, the choice is even more refined and I know that the T500 would have suited me best as a starter (in hind sight only of course). Final point, if it was a choice between not riding for say 4 or 6 weeks in the height of summer or buying the T500SE instead of the T500, then best just get the SE and get on with it, as your cycling and fitness doesn't improve when not doing it regularly so the future upgrade issue drifts further away . Hope this makes sense?
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