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Post by zoltansocrates on Apr 5, 2014 12:46:35 GMT
Nae going oot playing fitba in the street wi them
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Post by Steph on Apr 5, 2014 13:07:59 GMT
Still no clearer then I'll see what the stuff at Decathlon is like, even if I go for the cheapest shoes and pedals it would only be Β£10 more than the MuddyFox stuff, should be able to stretch to that. Close to another voucher anyway so could get Β£5 off if I plan my upcoming purchases right. I've heard mixed reviews about the MF stuff though, but I figured since I had nothing to compare them to they would probably do for now. Pretty sure I will go for road though and not MTB.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 13:12:34 GMT
Mmm ... ( Risk being accused of not being impartial here now I realise ... but come on, they're beautiful ) Ils sont magnifiques
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Post by Radchenister on Apr 5, 2014 13:25:03 GMT
Still no clearer then I'll see what the stuff at Decathlon is like, even if I go for the cheapest shoes and pedals it would only be Β£10 more than the MuddyFox stuff, should be able to stretch to that. Close to another voucher anyway so could get Β£5 off if I plan my upcoming purchases right. I've heard mixed reviews about the MF stuff though, but I figured since I had nothing to compare them to they would probably do for now. Pretty sure I will go for road though and not MTB. Watch YouTube (someone should pop a link - I'm on phone here). Practice propped up, then around the park first on level ground, then meditate the vision on unclipping in a quiet room. If you can start on well trimmed dry grass (cricket outfield) without offending the groundsmen then all the better.
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Post by Radchenister on Apr 5, 2014 14:26:59 GMT
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Post by captslog on Apr 5, 2014 16:38:50 GMT
not found that yet ? have you tried smoking something else while peddling? I don't know what you are reefering to. (Not even smoked a normal ciggy in my life, let alone a wacky baccy one)
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Post by wardyuk on Apr 6, 2014 7:06:34 GMT
well, FWIW, i managed a nice 20km circuit yesterday with the new setup and to be honest, I was a little underwhelmed. Certainly, in terms of "feel" they were better - not massively, but they were more secure, more comfortable, more "positive"... And I agree that for long routes - perhaps 60km + they'll make a significant difference in terms of comfort But performance? still cant see it - in fact out of 12 segments logged on Strava, I only got 2 PR's - the rest were all (at best) 2nd and 3rd places. I'm going to try another route later today if the weather holds, and I'll see how the next few weeks go... Edit: Thinking about this a bit more - I wonder if there is an element of a placebo effect here? If you expect the clipless set up to be the performance-panacea that many say it will be, does that become partially self fulling, and give you as much of a mental boost as it does physically? Conversely, as I've been very sceptical about the performance boost, has that had the reverse effect? Or maybe I'm just over thinking it all - its all just mles in the legs at the end of the day, and amazing fun.. so I'm just going to get out here and ride (assuming this rain does one )
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Post by wardyuk on Apr 6, 2014 7:14:26 GMT
This thread is making me want to make the switch to clipless even more. I'm heading over to Decathlon later and I have a feeling I may end up spending the money I'm going to earn next week before I've even done the work At the very least I'm going to try a few shoes on etc and see how things are. I tried the MuddyFox ones on in SportsDirect last week but need to compare them to something else. Still don't know if I'll go for MTB or Road though. Steph - I think the key is to ask yourself why you want to switch to clipless. Is it because you've done as much as you can with your current set up, or is it because clipless is the recommended way to go? I've gone with the mtb set up - as I ride mtb's as well, and it was the cheapest way of doing it - and if anything I've seen a loss in performance, but a reasonable increase in comfort - although not enough for me to start preaching the clipless is a must-do upgrade message. I've only be riding road bikes for 6 or 7 weeks, my average ride atm is around 30-40 km/ 2 rides a week, mainly due to time constraints, but I'm comfortable at 60km and my next goal is to to be doing at least 1 70km + route a week... and thats the main reason for my switch to clipless - my trainers are very comfy, but 60km was pushing it and I wouldn't have wanted to do 70km in them... There's lots of tales on here of the performance boosting aspects of them - and i wanted to add an alternative view
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Post by Steph on Apr 6, 2014 8:35:35 GMT
This thread is making me want to make the switch to clipless even more. I'm heading over to Decathlon later and I have a feeling I may end up spending the money I'm going to earn next week before I've even done the work At the very least I'm going to try a few shoes on etc and see how things are. I tried the MuddyFox ones on in SportsDirect last week but need to compare them to something else. Still don't know if I'll go for MTB or Road though. Steph - I think the key is to ask yourself why you want to switch to clipless. Is it because you've done as much as you can with your current set up, or is it because clipless is the recommended way to go? I've gone with the mtb set up - as I ride mtb's as well, and it was the cheapest way of doing it - and if anything I've seen a loss in performance, but a reasonable increase in comfort - although not enough for me to start preaching the clipless is a must-do upgrade message. I've only be riding road bikes for 6 or 7 weeks, my average ride atm is around 30-40 km/ 2 rides a week, mainly due to time constraints, but I'm comfortable at 60km and my next goal is to to be doing at least 1 70km + route a week... and thats the main reason for my switch to clipless - my trainers are very comfy, but 60km was pushing it and I wouldn't have wanted to do 70km in them... There's lots of tales on here of the performance boosting aspects of them - and i wanted to add an alternative view Thanks I think it's a bit of everything tbh. I don't really feel like I'm improving that much with my current setup, I've had my road bike for 8 months and I think it's about time I give it a go, and my trainers are completely falling apart so would be looking at buying new shoes anyway. I'm under no illusions. I know switching to clipless isn't suddenly going to dramatically increase my average speed (possibly won't change it at all in fact) but it might make rides a bit easier, hill climbs a bit less of a struggle and mostly just increase my comfort. While I haven't been getting out much recently for various reasons, normally I would be out almost everyday doing at least 25 miles/40km each time.
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Post by chas on Apr 6, 2014 9:17:25 GMT
Clipless pedals allow you to use different muscles and spin easily at a higher cadence ( see the thread about masher vs spinner) If you're a masher you'll notice less benefit, but if they seem worse then you need to experiment with cleat position and saddle height, you'll probably need to raise your saddle slightly to compensate for your foot being further from the pedal spindle. If you're a spinner the benefits are huge, the 'dog nugget' reference above refers to : Push down as if you're treading on eggshells Pull back as if wiping dog nugget off your shoes Pull up as if your shoes stuck on chewing gum So repeat your new mantra eggshells dogshit chewing gum choose a slightly lower gear and feel the benefit. I find I do this on hills or anytime I need a boost and it brings into play muscles that aren't as tired and gives immediate benefit, if you've never done it these muscles may take a while to develop.
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Post by Radchenister on Apr 6, 2014 12:10:41 GMT
No placebo effect, you're just not using it to the full potential yet - this will come with time.
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Post by zoltansocrates on Apr 6, 2014 12:50:31 GMT
Not too many trainers being worn in grand tours
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 13:17:24 GMT
I wore trainers when I started out in cycle touring. My feet didn't half ache at the end of a long day. For me they are probably the worst type of footwear for a long day in the saddle.
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