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Post by ianmoss on Mar 21, 2014 20:18:15 GMT
Of would hate to biff a carbon bike, look round to see it in 2 halves!!!
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Post by DelB on Mar 21, 2014 20:20:10 GMT
Agree with pretty much all that you've said/surmised there Radchenister. With the very greatest of respect to those who've bought the PX Pro Carbon bikes, my Β£1000 would be spent on an alloy frame and 105 groupset instead. Fully intended to press the button on a Cube Peloton Race before now, but am not managing to get out as often as I'd like so can't therefore see the point. :-(
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Post by Radchenister on Mar 21, 2014 20:24:11 GMT
It's a tough call, we can all get lulled into the next best performance enhancement.
Carbon is fickle - I'd want to know a lot about it before committing to it, particularly as I'm never going to be less than 14 stone at my skinniest (I stopped being 13 stone at about age 15 and ran half marathons fast at 14 stone - so I may be biased).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 21:58:31 GMT
I'd hasten to add that I'm not a general fan of the cheap carbon offerings of the likes of Planet X & Ribble, but the SAB ones are NOS from when they were a family owned Italian brand in the same ilk as the likes of Sarto, maybe they'd be better, maybe not. I'd tend to agree that you're much better getting a high end aluminium/titanium bike than a lower end carbon (both tend to hover around the same price point unless you want Di2 and then they're about the same price as medium-high end carbon, I'm looking at you Canyon Ultimate Al!). Unless I was going to spend Β£2k+, then I'd probably look at something like a Kinesis Racelight for my next build, but like DelB I can't justify the cost of a new bike 'til the Engine/ECU is all ship shape!
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Post by jdebs on Mar 22, 2014 10:32:38 GMT
So many haters!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2014 10:33:26 GMT
Edinburgh shop opening as soon as next week apparently.....
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Post by zoltansocrates on Mar 22, 2014 13:15:20 GMT
Wow bit of a Planet X bash going on there, I dunno about their frames having more resin than.....and the testaments from the owners here have been good but I suppose carbon, like any frame material, needs to be proven to be trusted, the old pics of carbon exploding mid race did it no favours early on but these days I'm sure, like all technologies, there have been leaps and bounds in structural integrity, even the Chinese frames will be fairly good IMO, alloy can fail dramatically too and I remember they used to give alloy frames a ten year max lifespan, dunno if they still do but when I bought the claud the chap said I'd need to chuck it after that time Horses for courses, some will be more confident or carefree than others but I'd suggest you'd be pretty unlucky to get shoddy carbon these days Great news IMO about PX in Edina even if it is the bloody south side bargains sound good to me, can't afford velo eccose all the time, Evans are Evans, and edinburgh cycle I just personally don't get on with so happy about another option Big del is gonna take a hit wallet wise tho it's not far from him
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Post by Radchenister on Mar 22, 2014 13:35:50 GMT
Not bashing, just reporting first hand experience from a GB Triathlete's long list of high end bikes, he was sponsored for a few years, is an engineer by profession. My view was that PX appear to have sorted their act out, his response was they just pick them out a frame maker's catalogue ... horses for courses, do your research and road test if you can. His issue was amount of deflection at the crank, his advice to me was as not a featherweight need to think carefully when making choices, @davefy7 may like to comment on his choice?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 7:14:18 GMT
There's a lot of crap that gets talked about PX and Ribble - mainly by bike snobs who can't fathom how they can sell a bike for nearer its true cost than closer to the cost of a high end motorbike.
PS De Rosa clearly also pick their frames from catalogues as their 838 is identical to the Ribble Stealth and if anyone thinks their Dogma is actually made in Italy rather than just assembled there they're deluding themselves.
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Post by Radchenister on Apr 2, 2014 7:21:37 GMT
Is 'talking crap' the colloquial for someone with an alternative view ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 8:46:55 GMT
Not at all. Being a Triban owner I thought you'd have understood this - especially as the forums biggest proponent of cycling on a budget.
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Post by jdebs on Apr 2, 2014 8:50:26 GMT
So many haters
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Post by Radchenister on Apr 2, 2014 9:10:29 GMT
OK, I'll give you more facts, as I've dug a bit deeper into why my buddy is anti - the frame he had was not great, things may have moved on but his flexed at the bottom bracket and through the rear triangle, to such an extent that the wheel rubbed on the frame ... he is obviously a little miffed by this ... I am reporting someone's views and experience; much of this has come when mentioning what I have been considering buying myself and is not based on the fact I'm arguing from an owner's position ( ), nothing to do with snobbery whatsoever as have them on my list of maybes. I am two minded now, I think they've likely got a good set up with the bikes you've bought but like I said earlier, best do research and have a test drive to make sure.
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Post by stevo on Apr 2, 2014 9:21:34 GMT
Rad, that may be the case as opposed to Mega expensive carbon frames De Rosa, Cervelo, et al. But I can safely say that the performance of my PX Pro Carbon is still light years ahead of the Triban 3 I had in terms of weight, power and indeed stiffness. Obviously, to a certain extent, you get what you pay for, (and I still think that the Triban 3 is a brilliant bike for it's price) but I am certainly impressed with Carbon - even a lower end frame!
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