richc
Peloton Rider
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Post by richc on Mar 14, 2014 22:32:58 GMT
Thanks for all the replys, glad it's not just my mechanical incompetence! Doing some spring upgrades at the moment so may have add new hangers to the list. Has anyone done this yet?
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Post by chas on Mar 14, 2014 22:45:05 GMT
The mech hanger is specific to the frame, you can't upgrade it, only way to change it would be to find a similar one and modify it with a Dremel
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Post by Radchenister on Mar 14, 2014 22:50:08 GMT
Not shooting the messenger chas ... but it has to be asked ... what joker made that decision?
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Post by Radchenister on Mar 14, 2014 22:57:02 GMT
To qualify that a touch, if you're after brand continuation and a commitment to a future breed of cyclists, confident that you can carry on producing decent products at competitive rates for longevity (like a wide market appeal bike manufacturer might like to think) - why would you then make it limited in the repair stakes? Rhetorical question I realise, only lodged for the record.
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Post by Radchenister on Mar 14, 2014 23:00:06 GMT
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Post by chas on Mar 14, 2014 23:02:11 GMT
(non)standard practice Rad, almost every frame has it's own, there are dozens of different designs and it's a nightmare if you have an unusual frame. I snapped the one on my old Borghini 'cross frame and spent a long time trying to scource one before concluding that originally it wasn't replaceable and the previous owner had modified one. My daughter has a PX Pro Carbon and we struggled with the rear wheel of that before realising it was tyre clearance, although nominally 23mm it was big and swapping to a smaller 23mm one made all the difference
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Post by chas on Mar 14, 2014 23:05:08 GMT
I don't mean that you can't replace them with standard, they are readily available from Decathlon, but that you can't 'upgrade' to a 'better' one
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Post by robertsims on Mar 14, 2014 23:06:18 GMT
Yep not you being daft the rear wheel can be bit of pig at times!
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Post by Radchenister on Mar 14, 2014 23:07:20 GMT
So not a conspiracy theorist's dream , more a product of geometries and creativity in making the parts to fit the actual model of bike than anything else, we all know bike design is a massive subject .
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Post by baz on Mar 14, 2014 23:43:40 GMT
Same here, bit of a struggle to get it out, getting it in is even more difficult (im talking about wheels here ) to the point i have to deflate the tyres.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 0:02:24 GMT
These days I tend to just remove the quick release and it comes out with ease as the quick release nut is what catches against the dรฉrailleur.
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alanp
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Post by alanp on Mar 15, 2014 8:12:12 GMT
These days I tend to just remove the quick release and it comes out with ease as the quick release nut is what catches against the dรฉrailleur. I've taken to doing that too - leaving the skewer in place but removing the nut. it seems wrong to do it, but still easier than using a solid axle.
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Post by chas on Mar 15, 2014 9:50:44 GMT
Just out of interest, what tyres are the people who are having problems using? it sounds similar to the problem on my daughters bike which is not so much a design fault as a symptom of close clearances.
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Post by captslog on Mar 15, 2014 10:02:32 GMT
After reading the comments above I found myself thinking "it wasn't that much of a problem", so I thought I'd have a go.
(From this you can gather that i don't often take out the back wheel, and it has been some time since I last did so.)
But from walking up to the bike, taking the back wheel out, putting it back in and walking away it took 1 minute 45 secs, I can see the problem though, and my wheel catches just behind the bb just the same. I found I get around this by holding the bike by the chainstays and applying pressure with both thumbs on the axle/skewer nuts
This is with the original wheels BTW, and these are fitted with Michelin Dynamics 23s.
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Post by Radchenister on Mar 15, 2014 10:26:45 GMT
23 Conti Ultra chas , the tolerances could be better, or the angle of entry on hanger. I am amazed that hangers aren't standard sizes (or a few sizes) at least at the coupling details to allow alternative geometry. Off to Bath via lift to cycle path - four wheel removal imminent.
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