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Post by Big Brother on Feb 8, 2014 22:32:19 GMT
My sincerest condolences to the poor people affected by the horrendous flooding situation. Unbelievable! Incredible that this great country is quick to bale out many 3rd world countries for any issue that arises. Yet when our own countrymen/women are in need of assistance............ nowt doing! Many of these people have been left to their own devices since the beginning of the year. Large swathes of countryside are submerged with whole villages cut off and nothing is done to help. I'm sorry but it's a bloody disgrace. I imagine if the Thames had flooded and the capital had a few inches of water standing outside the Houses of Parliament, all hell would break loose with millions being thrown at the "disaster" and "state of emergency" When are the people in charge going to give our own people some help instead of trying to show the rest of the world how good we are at helping others. Makes my blood boil!
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Post by Rocket on Feb 8, 2014 22:37:12 GMT
Thames barrier cost how much?
We can manage without London but we cannot manage without food yet the fields it grows in are under water.
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Post by Big Brother on Feb 8, 2014 22:45:54 GMT
Amen to that RocketFortunately we are in a very hilly Pennine position. If we got flooding where I live then we would be in the doodah! Doubt the Westminster Massive would do owt anyhow, because we're Northern!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2014 0:01:40 GMT
Has the news been giving the wrong take on all this? From what I've seen on the news there are boats taking people in and out of villages, in some areas they've put up a walkway along a road to allow residents to walk out over the flood to the next town. Military were called in to assess whether they were needed but it was decided fire and rescue were equiped enough to deal with the situation as it currently stands.
Not a huge amount you can do about mass flooding like that apart from not build entire villages in a floodplain, what are you expecting them to you other than boats to get people in and out? Not really anywhere they can pump the water.
Only going by what I've seen occasionally in the news so please correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by Radchenister on Feb 9, 2014 0:13:48 GMT
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Post by Steph on Feb 9, 2014 15:54:21 GMT
Has the news been giving the wrong take on all this? From what I've seen on the news there are boats taking people in and out of villages, in some areas they've put up a walkway along a road to allow residents to walk out over the flood to the next town. Military were called in to assess whether they were needed but it was decided fire and rescue were equiped enough to deal with the situation as it currently stands. Not a huge amount you can do about mass flooding like that apart from not build entire villages in a floodplain, what are you expecting them to you other than boats to get people in and out? Not really anywhere they can pump the water. Only going by what I've seen occasionally in the news so please correct me if I am wrong. My thoughts too. It is a real shame, but it's weather, what is anyone supposed to do? From what I can tell they are helping people but the government can't just wish the water away. If you rant at anyone, rant at the people who decide to build houses etc on flood plains. They built our new hospital on a floodplain and then wondered why the basement was flooded for 6 months.....
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Post by Spoakes on Feb 9, 2014 20:54:13 GMT
Has the news been giving the wrong take on all this? From what I've seen on the news there are boats taking people in and out of villages, in some areas they've put up a walkway along a road to allow residents to walk out over the flood to the next town. Military were called in to assess whether they were needed but it was decided fire and rescue were equiped enough to deal with the situation as it currently stands. Not a huge amount you can do about mass flooding like that apart from not build entire villages in a floodplain, what are you expecting them to you other than boats to get people in and out? Not really anywhere they can pump the water. Only going by what I've seen occasionally in the news so please correct me if I am wrong. My thoughts too. It is a real shame, but it's weather, what is anyone supposed to do? From what I can tell they are helping people but the government can't just wish the water away. If you rant at anyone, rant at the people who decide to build houses etc on flood plains. They built our new hospital on a floodplain and then wondered why the basement was flooded for 6 months..... Yep and what normally goes in the basement ? Filing rooms ! Btwin Rock rider 6.0 red Btwin triban 3 red
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2014 21:04:58 GMT
My thoughts too. It is a real shame, but it's weather, what is anyone supposed to do? From what I can tell they are helping people but the government can't just wish the water away. If you rant at anyone, rant at the people who decide to build houses etc on flood plains. They built our new hospital on a floodplain and then wondered why the basement was flooded for 6 months..... Yep and what normally goes in the basement ? Filing rooms ! ... and turbo trainers
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Post by cbrdeano on Feb 11, 2014 19:31:36 GMT
What gets me is that the "Helpline" set up for these folks to ring is a premium rate number.
Some arse is making money off the flood victims phoning for help !!!!!!!!
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Post by martin122 on Feb 11, 2014 21:20:38 GMT
as a somerset lad from Yeovil not far from somerset levels this really gets to me that this country can send millions and millions in aid overseas to other countries when we should be helping our own people and putting tax payers money in to helping flooded villages!! as always with this country its always TO LITTLE TO LATE!! some of the somerset levels have been flooded since December. two and half months later when its far to late those tw*ts from Westminster decide to do something is it not about time we started looking after our own people for once?? that's my rant over people,
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 22:52:42 GMT
What gets me is that the "Helpline" set up for these folks to ring is a premium rate number. Some arse is making money off the flood victims phoning for help !!!!!!!! They've got an 03 number now. How someone ever thought it would be good to use a premium number for that though...
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Post by Big Brother on Feb 11, 2014 23:48:18 GMT
as a somerset lad from Yeovil not far from somerset levels this really gets to me that this country can send millions and millions in aid overseas to other countries when we should be helping our own people and putting tax payers money in to helping flooded villages!! as always with this country its always TO LITTLE TO LATE!! some of the somerset levels have been flooded since December. two and half months later when its far to late those tw*ts from Westminster decide to do something is it not about time we started looking after our own people for once?? that's my rant over people, What Martin said. We always find the money to bail out other countries. Why not help our own for a change. Dredging the rivers would be a good start. As already stated, stopping the mass building on flood plains and any other available green space would help too. I just feel sorry for the people affected.
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Post by Radchenister on Feb 12, 2014 0:04:32 GMT
I agree on much of that, except dredging rivers isn't necessarily the answer as it can exacerbate flow and localised flooding, holding the water strategically via thorough assessment and considering options along the whole route of rivers and tributaries in the particular water catchment is the game, which will likely mean a more complex / sophisticated set of specific measures to suit the individual scenario.
A Wild Trout Trust fellow wrote a good piece on this in the last day or so that was shared to me on Facebook today; I'll find it when at PC.
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Post by Radchenister on Feb 12, 2014 10:17:57 GMT
Actually, Angling Trust link - memory not what it was! fightingforfishing.anglingtrust.net/2014/02/11/lets-not-unlearn-the-lessons-about-dredging-a-guest-blog-from-charles-clover/'The Somerset Levels are a special case. Historically a swamp, where King Alfred hid from the Danes, the Levels have always been wet. Farmers there resisted drainage long after Cornelius Vermuyden drained the Fens. So the Levels and Moors were never engineered as much. There isnβt anywhere like the Hundred Food Washes for the water to go β so it spills onto farmland. There is enormous sympathy for the 40 homeowners around Muchelney that have been flooded but figuring out what to do about it remains a conundrum. Dredging the rivers Parrett, Brue and Axe, which are above the level of the land, could increase their capacity to take floodwater but even the local drainage boards donβt think that dredging will provide the long term solution that the Prime Minister appears to believe it will. The drainage boardsβ ten point plan also recommends storing more water in upper catchments, relocating vulnerable households, and providing support for farmers whose land is used as storage areas for water.
Why the rest of the country should now have to sanction dredging, when it is only part of the solution for an engineered wetland, is beyond comprehension. For that is the implication of seven pilot studies sanctioned by Owen Paterson, the Environment Secretary, in which farmers will be allowed to dredge rivers all over the country. The channels dredged will never be enough to hold the results of a true downpour, while immense ecological damage will be done and floodwater simply moved down to the nearest town. That, unless we resist, could be the legacy of this wet winter long after the strident voices have ceased.'
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Post by Radchenister on Feb 13, 2014 12:16:02 GMT
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