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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2014 20:07:53 GMT
I work with heavy metal & stuff FFS !!! Iron Maiden?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2014 20:10:29 GMT
I really don't get our legal system sometimes. It isn't a legal requirement to wear a helmet, so why should contributory negligence come into it.
If a pedestrian were to be hit by the car and hit his head on the windscreen, you wouldn't be trying to claim he should have been wearing a helmet.
As far as I am aware the precedent hasn't been set yet that not wearing a helmet could be seen a contributory negligence should it be proven that it would have prevented the injuries. But from the judges comments it certainly appears to be his opinion that this should be the case.
Reading the article it appears that other judges share the same opinion.
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Post by bandit3 on Jan 8, 2014 20:15:50 GMT
I work with heavy metal & stuff FFS !!! Iron Maiden? No, 70's Black sabbath is more to my taste
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Post by martin122 on Jan 8, 2014 20:16:11 GMT
yes always
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2014 20:17:15 GMT
Iron Maiden? No, 70's Black sabbath is more to my taste
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Post by Whitestar1 on Jan 9, 2014 12:40:16 GMT
Captain logic strikes again, thought I'd wind someone up with my 99% . You can of course think what you want though Whitestar1 and technically you're right, no grey areas in that stance ... when are you going to start wearing one whilst walking, when it rains or just when the temp reaches zero ? Note: I said two wheels - or should I had written two wheels in parallel? Fear not, thick shin, have I!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2014 15:48:02 GMT
Absolutely. There's nothing that will make your head feel like a squidgy big ball than a bike rode on public roads.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2014 11:09:44 GMT
I'm going to be a bit controversial here and say that I don't always wear one.
If you actually look at the research you will find that they (helmets) are of suprisingly little benefit. The whole 80% of head injuries could be avoided statistic that everyone seems to quote doesn't take into account collisions with vehicles (in which practically all cyclist deaths occur) The data also suggests that helmets only help to prevent minor cuts and scrapes.
Regardless of this I wear helmets on most of my training rides if it is windy, raining or icy (basically if coming off the bike is likely). On my commutes or on rides on which I will be encountering traffic I don't wear my helmet because of the fact (according to lots of research) that wearing a helmet makes you more likely to be hit by a car due to the fact that drivers give helmeted riders less room when overtaking, a phenomenon which I have experienced myself.
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Post by Phil on Jan 10, 2014 12:10:18 GMT
I wear a helmet every time I go out (not often at the moment time hasn't allowed) but I do know someone who had an incident on his bike while not wearing a helmet and the doctor said it was a good job he wasn't. He would've lost his voice box had he been wearing one because the buckle under the chin would've caused serious damage due to the nature of the incident. It's not quite as cut and dried as people make out.
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Post by Radchenister on Jan 10, 2014 12:36:57 GMT
It isn't but getting on with it with on a road or mtb bike then I think they make sense; I've bounced my head off branches and seen my buddy crack a helmet on a rock going over the handlebars on a mtb downhill. In thinking about my riding, I am most likely to loose the bike on a poor surface or fast road descent ( robertsims will know how I ride them sometimes), I wear it mainly for those purposes; I may or may not benefit from one if hit by a car - but on weighing up the issues, I still wear one anyway; trying to pretend that you will come out well with a bit of polystyrene on your head if whacked at 60mph is pointless IMO. If people want to tell me that tootling 300 yards in bottom gear to the bus stop and walking back with my son makes me cycling's poor example then so be it .
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Post by acd1055 on Jan 10, 2014 12:46:14 GMT
It isn't but getting on with it with on a road or mtb bike then I think they make sense; I've bounced my head off branches and seen my buddy crack a helmet on a rock going over the handlebars on a mtb downhill. In thinking about my riding, I am most likely to loose the bike on a poor surface or fast road descent ( robertsims will know how I ride them sometimes), I wear it mainly for those purposes; I may or may not benefit from one if hit by a car - but on weighing up the issues, I still wear one anyway; trying to pretend that you will come out well with a bit of polystyrene on your head if whacked at 60mph is pointless IMO. If people want to tell me that tootling 300 yards in bottom gear to the bus stop and walking back with my son makes me cycling's poor example then so be it . Thats poor cycling..
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Post by Radchenister on Jan 10, 2014 13:06:39 GMT
It isn't but getting on with it with on a road or mtb bike then I think they make sense; I've bounced my head off branches and seen my buddy crack a helmet on a rock going over the handlebars on a mtb downhill. In thinking about my riding, I am most likely to loose the bike on a poor surface or fast road descent ( robertsims will know how I ride them sometimes), I wear it mainly for those purposes; I may or may not benefit from one if hit by a car - but on weighing up the issues, I still wear one anyway; trying to pretend that you will come out well with a bit of polystyrene on your head if whacked at 60mph is pointless IMO. If people want to tell me that tootling 300 yards in bottom gear to the bus stop and walking back with my son makes me cycling's poor example then so be it . Thats poor cycling.. Better than your use of the full stop ! ... how's my skiing though (nursery slope, Sainte Foy, circa 2004, teaching son with full crash kit, body harness and hip positioned reigns, suppose this is too risky as well as I'm not wearing a jacket or helmet - helmets were just coming in - we do take our risk taking in a considered and serious way in this family you know) ?
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Post by robertsims on Jan 10, 2014 13:59:04 GMT
That's a cool pic! Your lads bit bigger than that now!
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Post by Radchenister on Jan 10, 2014 14:14:23 GMT
He sure is and the recession means we don't go skiing any more either as it's silly dosh - he's pretty good as well, I taught him from the age of 3 - he was doing the green run on his own down through the woods the first year, then he was doing blue runs with me at age 4 - ok to get down some reds at 5 and then we stopped going; our kit is still in a locker at my mate's place out there.
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Post by Big Brother on Jan 10, 2014 21:47:21 GMT
Nice picture Rads. The lad looks very comfortable in the descent. Unfortunately, you look like you're just about to fall on your ar$e!!!
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