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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 19:44:54 GMT
ill have steak dianne and a cigarette before the 6am execution its all in those forks tbh, the contrast is pure 70s Firing squad with only martin122 is readying rifle for 6am. I much prefer the new logo on the bikes than the old. You seen the scheme on the junior bike?
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Post by zoltansocrates on Aug 14, 2013 19:54:35 GMT
ill have steak dianne and a cigarette before the 6am execution its all in those forks tbh, the contrast is pure 70s Firing squad with only martin122 is reading rifle for 6am. I much prefer the new logo on the bikes than the old. You seen the scheme on the junior bike?thats where the lower case btwin should be, on junior bikes, capital letters for the big boys to be fair the red capital letter btwins i dont mind so much
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Post by panda on Aug 14, 2013 22:45:17 GMT
T3 Red T3A White T5 White T5A Black The T3/5 is the 2012 model and T3A/5A is the 2013 model I believe. With that info you should be able to work out the rest looking through the decathlon website. Most popular 2 are the red T3 and black T5A it seems, with the extra on the T5A getting you the sora groupset that several people here have upgrading their T3 to. T3A white is a downgrade from the T3 red, you don't get the carbon forks and it has microshift shifters. T3 Red is very good value, but with the difficulty in obtaining one I went for the T5A black. with all due respect im not having that, the t3a is a different bike - you are comparing apples and skyscrapers and who says that the carbon fork btwin supply is better than a steel fork? all the major manufs are going back to steel forks on their entry level bikes including giant and spesh, microshift being new to the market doesnt mean they are worse than shimano and the argument that they are cheaper hence must be worse wont wash with buyers of btwin bikes, microshift are good just new and definately not a downgrade from shimano at that level the t3a is the NEW entry level bike that effectively replaces where the T3 sits in the pecking order BUT the true replacement of the T3 is actually the T5a which has the same frame and fork combo with an upgrade to 2013 sora thrown in the old white T5 is effectively replaced by the T7 (the A was dropped for some reason) with carbon forks and rear stays and an upgrade from sora to 2013 tiagra the a obviously represents the newer range of bikes which is why im confused that they dropped it from the 7 but the pecking order should be PREVIOUS / CURRENT NOTHING - T3A T3 - T5A T5 - T7A So technically there was never a bike that could be downgraded to the t3a as it is a new tier, what it does represent though is the outstanding value of the t3 pedantry perhaps but i wouldnt want people being put off the 3a, it is a fine bike and i think it looks better than the red (ill get shot for that)
ive posted plenty of times on here about the carbon vs steel fork argument and there are cases for and against both but no one should be buying a bike on the basis of what fork the bike has anyway, the 3a offers the buyer the ability to spend less at entry level therefore risking less cash if they dont like it, if they do decathlon will sell them a carbon fork if they want i dont ride one but ill defend the poor 3a, everyone has got it in for that bike, bloody shame (here endeth the rant and not before time) SPOT ON! I would pin this post. Whichever way you look at it, the T5A is a replacement for the T3. New groupset on the same frame & fork.
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Post by Whitestar1 on Aug 15, 2013 9:21:51 GMT
zoltansocrates makes a strong argument for steel here. It's surprising how all the big names are now making steel framed bikes not just at the entry level too. Even Giant has put out an all steel MTB at the Β£600 mark! For me, I will always be a carbon man, but there are some good virtues to be gained from a steel frame and fork. I own a full carbon rig and whilst i love it, if i could do it all again, I'd buy a titanium frame. I hate going out knowing that if I fell off i could very well wreck the bike, whilst with a metal frame, you get back on it. I would never buy a carbon framed mountain bike. having said that, I run a 15 year old mountain bike with Pace carbon suspension forks, and they still work, and GT's top end downhill bikes are carbon. (mind you, wrecking the bike should be the least of my worries, every time fall off i break bones). To get back on track. I think the T3a is a smashing bike, and I agree with zoltansocrates It looks better than the T3 Red. I've used Microshift stuff and its fine. The T5a is definitely worth the extra Β£130 because you couldnt upgrade the T3 to the same spec for Β£130. This is how much the groupset costs. Same applies for the T5 -> T7a Bottom Line is: with all models, there's scope for upgrading and whichever one you buy, you'll be happy. I think it was the Great Manchester Cycle event this year I saw a T3 with its fork broken clean from the bike. So it seems you and zoltansocrates are more than right. Titanium is far to rich for the wallet for me.
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