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Post by Whitestar1 on Jul 15, 2013 20:02:49 GMT
When it comes to light I don't compromise on my safety - my commutes have always been rural with no street lighting of any kind and some nasty roads - or completely off road needing seriously good lighting. Also lights for being seen with and lights for seeing with have completely different requirements and Mackly does not state which he needs. I will point out that the light is bright enough for me to descend at speed on unlit country lanes and be able to see potholes, grids, tree branches etc and be able to respond to avoid them. It also has a dimmer switch easily available to drop the brightness when in towns/anywhere with road lighting so I can save battery life and not blind oncoming drivers. You are right, it is expensive. £148 on Wiggle Exposure Joystick with Helmet Mount etc. I am seriously thinking of getting a new light, I rather to see as well as be seen. My budget though is around £100. Unsure if I will push to £150. I will give the Exposure serious thought. It appears to be as small as a regular bike light so is there a battery pack for it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2013 20:09:27 GMT
When it comes to light I don't compromise on my safety - my commutes have always been rural with no street lighting of any kind and some nasty roads - or completely off road needing seriously good lighting. Also lights for being seen with and lights for seeing with have completely different requirements and Mackly does not state which he needs. I will point out that the light is bright enough for me to descend at speed on unlit country lanes and be able to see potholes, grids, tree branches etc and be able to respond to avoid them. It also has a dimmer switch easily available to drop the brightness when in towns/anywhere with road lighting so I can save battery life and not blind oncoming drivers. You are right, it is expensive. £148 on Wiggle Exposure Joystick with Helmet Mount etc. I am seriously thinking of getting a new light, I rather to see as well as be seen. My budget though is around £100. Unsure if I will push to £150. I will give the Exposure serious thought. It appears to be as small as a regular bike light so is there a battery pack for it? you can get an additional battery pack for it which adds an extra 3 hours (at max lumens) to the current 3-4 hours at max that it does (+24 hours on flashing), but what you see is what you get - that light includes the battery and is superb. (we got given one free and my OH picked mine up for less than £80 from Evans cycles before Christmas when they had a special offer on, so don't go paying full price for one, they come up on special offers quite a bit as well as on ebay.) Don't get the helmet mount, go for the bar mount - much better imo. Also if you do get one, make sure you use the lanyard they provide as a back up incase the light comes off the mount - not had that happen to me at all even on the mtb but know of someone on cyclechat that did not use the landyard and their's got run over - didn't survive!
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Post by Whitestar1 on Jul 15, 2013 20:12:32 GMT
You are right, it is expensive. £148 on Wiggle Exposure Joystick with Helmet Mount etc. I am seriously thinking of getting a new light, I rather to see as well as be seen. My budget though is around £100. Unsure if I will push to £150. I will give the Exposure serious thought. It appears to be as small as a regular bike light so is there a battery pack for it? you can get an additional battery pack for it which adds an extra 3 hours (at max lumens) to the current 3-4 hours at max that it does (+24 hours on flashing), but what you see is what you get - that light includes the battery and is superb. (we got given one free and my OH picked mine up for less than £80 from Evans cycles before Christmas when they had a special offer on, so don't go paying full price for one, they come up on special offers quite a bit as well as on ebay.) Don't get the helmet mount, go for the bar mount - much better imo. Also if you do get one, make sure you use the lanyard they provide as a back up incase the light comes off the mount - not had that happen to me at all even on the mtb but know of someone on cyclechat that did not use the landyard and their's got run over - didn't survive! Let me get this right, the battery is internal or external?
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Post by bobcollege on Jul 15, 2013 20:13:28 GMT
You are right, it is expensive. £148 on Wiggle Exposure Joystick with Helmet Mount etc. I am seriously thinking of getting a new light, I rather to see as well as be seen. My budget though is around £100. Unsure if I will push to £150. I will give the Exposure serious thought. It appears to be as small as a regular bike light so is there a battery pack for it? If you don't want to spend £150 on a light then have you considered eBay? That's where I picked up my exposure enduro light for £80, trust me money well spent. If I'm riding a road bike at speed at night then the lighting I feel is very important and quality lights will serve you better, I don't want to be hitting a pothole at 20mph+ and to potentially be thrown off the bike. I'd much rather spend a little more money on decent lights and see the hazards in sufficient time so I can avoid them, something I feel a budget light is not gong to offer me.
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Post by Whitestar1 on Jul 15, 2013 20:16:05 GMT
You are right, it is expensive. £148 on Wiggle Exposure Joystick with Helmet Mount etc. I am seriously thinking of getting a new light, I rather to see as well as be seen. My budget though is around £100. Unsure if I will push to £150. I will give the Exposure serious thought. It appears to be as small as a regular bike light so is there a battery pack for it? If you don't want to spend £150 on a light then have you considered eBay? That's where I picked up my exposure enduro light for £80, trust me money well spent. If I'm riding a road bike at speed at night then the lighting I feel is very important and quality lights will serve you better, I don't want to be hitting a pothole at 20mph+ and to potentially be thrown off the bike. I'd much rather spend a little more money on decent lights and see the hazards in sufficient time so I can avoid them, something I feel a budget light is not gong to offer me. Hate ebay!!! Got bitten once already so make it a policy not to spend any large amount of money on it. Any idea as to the ebay shop/seller you used?
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Post by bobcollege on Jul 15, 2013 20:49:11 GMT
Hate ebay!!! Got bitten once already so make it a policy not to spend any large amount of money on it. Any idea as to the ebay shop/seller you used? I bought the light from a private seller. There were a number of the exposure lights for sale at the time. I guess it's a case of finding one that's in a tidy condition, includes brackets, manuals etc. I tried to steer clear of any that looked like they had been abused which is hard as some of the enduro lights are used for mountain biking so will more than likely have knocks and scratches. Ask the seller questions, especially about battery life. Remember to pay with PayPal as at least you will recover your money should something go wrong, even if it may take a while. Never had any issues on eBay in all they years I have used them although I do try and stay away from anything that seems too good a deal.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2013 9:01:04 GMT
you can get an additional battery pack for it which adds an extra 3 hours (at max lumens) to the current 3-4 hours at max that it does (+24 hours on flashing), but what you see is what you get - that light includes the battery and is superb. (we got given one free and my OH picked mine up for less than £80 from Evans cycles before Christmas when they had a special offer on, so don't go paying full price for one, they come up on special offers quite a bit as well as on ebay.) Don't get the helmet mount, go for the bar mount - much better imo. Also if you do get one, make sure you use the lanyard they provide as a back up incase the light comes off the mount - not had that happen to me at all even on the mtb but know of someone on cyclechat that did not use the landyard and their's got run over - didn't survive! Let me get this right, the battery is internal or external? the battery is internal but there is a smart port which allows for an external dimmer/on/off switch or a rear light, or an external battery pack to extend the full beam/max lumens life of the 3-4 hours to 6-8 hours... it is a really well thought out design. www.evanscycles.com/products/exposure/joystick-mk7-front-light-w-handlebar-mount-and-redeye-rear-light-ec042894 has it down at £129.99 with the rear light that runs from the internal battery of the front light (not really sure I would want to do that to be perfectly honest - requires both front & rear light to be helmet mounted because it is the short cable version, but gives you the handlebar mount for the front light unlike the model down)
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Post by Whitestar1 on Jul 16, 2013 10:04:30 GMT
Let me get this right, the battery is internal or external? the battery is internal but there is a smart port which allows for an external dimmer/on/off switch or a rear light, or an external battery pack to extend the full beam/max lumens life of the 3-4 hours to 6-8 hours... it is a really well thought out design. www.evanscycles.com/products/exposure/joystick-mk7-front-light-w-handlebar-mount-and-redeye-rear-light-ec042894 has it down at £129.99 with the rear light that runs from the internal battery of the front light (not really sure I would want to do that to be perfectly honest - requires both front & rear light to be helmet mounted because it is the short cable version, but gives you the handlebar mount for the front light unlike the model down) Had a look at that link - it has the Mk7 for £108. That's well within budget thanks for pointing it out. Although it will most likely change in price by the time I buy it. Prologo saddle first, then new bib-short before I get to winter lights. Good thing is I am now settled on what I am going to get. Thanks for your review.
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Post by Whitestar1 on Jul 16, 2013 10:06:45 GMT
Never had any issues on eBay in all they years I have used them although I do try and stay away from anything that seems too good a deal. Well lets just say you have been lucky, but I haven't had no such luck so Evans Cycle it is for me for the Exposure Joystick Mk7.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2013 10:57:28 GMT
the battery is internal but there is a smart port which allows for an external dimmer/on/off switch or a rear light, or an external battery pack to extend the full beam/max lumens life of the 3-4 hours to 6-8 hours... it is a really well thought out design. www.evanscycles.com/products/exposure/joystick-mk7-front-light-w-handlebar-mount-and-redeye-rear-light-ec042894 has it down at £129.99 with the rear light that runs from the internal battery of the front light (not really sure I would want to do that to be perfectly honest - requires both front & rear light to be helmet mounted because it is the short cable version, but gives you the handlebar mount for the front light unlike the model down) Had a look at that link - it has the Mk7 for £108. That's well within budget thanks for pointing it out. Although it will most likely change in price by the time I buy it. Prologo saddle first, then new bib-short before I get to winter lights. Good thing is I am now settled on what I am going to get. Thanks for your review. can see a mark 7 at £118 but that is only a helmet mounted one. need to watch carefuly with the exposure models, some come with only helmet mount, some with only handle bar mount, but I expect you will find something cheaper for the same thing as autumn comes. wiggle had some exposure stuff in their 1% discount per day recently and the prices came down under 3 figures for the light but sold out very quickly. also the market them as water resistant not waterproof. they are totally weather resistant. waterproof is immersing in water (sink/bucket/canal/river which obviously you are not going to do... and I know you know I cycle in all weathers and have had no issues with this light.
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Post by Whitestar1 on Jul 16, 2013 10:59:30 GMT
Had a look at that link - it has the Mk7 for £108. That's well within budget thanks for pointing it out. Although it will most likely change in price by the time I buy it. Prologo saddle first, then new bib-short before I get to winter lights. Good thing is I am now settled on what I am going to get. Thanks for your review. can see a mark 7 at £118 but that is only a helmet mounted one. need to watch carefuly with the exposure models, some come with only helmet mount, some with only handle bar mount, but I expect you will find something cheaper for the same thing as autumn comes. wiggle had some exposure stuff in their 1% discount per day recently and the prices came down under 3 figures for the light but sold out very quickly. also the market them as water resistant not waterproof. they are totally weather resistant. waterproof is immersing in water (sink/bucket/canal/river which obviously you are not going to do... and I know you know I cycle in all weathers and have had no issues with this light. great point! dually noted.
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