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Post by Radchenister on Jul 4, 2013 17:42:28 GMT
Yep, don't need to do it up too tight either - firm but don't crush the tube - tighten them in a cross pattern incrementally, going back to ones already done, as they will be looser when the others are tightened.
I think having your wrists straighter and not aiming the pressure straight onto the nerve (whilst the hand is twisted back too far) is the aim here.
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Post by chas on Jul 4, 2013 17:43:35 GMT
I've got a sore neck now from standing on my head It looks to me as if you've got the nose of your saddle pointing to far down causing you to slide forewards putting extra strain on your hands. Good spot, Chas, it's maybe a little nose down. Always thought it was horizontal, but looking again perhaps a touch downwards. Coupled with sliding back or front, this may help. Sorry for upside down pic - when you click it, it turns the right way up, right? (Does for me). No, I've got a very old slow pc (suits me For saddle position, drop a plumb line from the front of your front knee with the cranks horizontal, should line up with the pedal spindle
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2013 17:47:01 GMT
Yep, don't need to do it up too tight either - firm but don't crush the tube - tighten them in a cross pattern incrementally, going back to ones already done, as they will be looser when the others are tightened. I think having your wrists straighter and not aiming the pressure straight onto the nerve (whilst the hand is twisted back too far) is the aim here. Time to break out the torque wrench!
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Post by Radchenister on Jul 4, 2013 17:53:12 GMT
I use the 'Radometer' but a torque wrench might be better.
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Post by cbrdeano on Jul 4, 2013 18:29:16 GMT
Good spot, Chas, it's maybe a little nose down. Always thought it was horizontal, but looking again perhaps a touch downwards. Coupled with sliding back or front, this may help. Sorry for upside down pic - when you click it, it turns the right way up, right? (Does for me). No, I've got a very old slow pc (suits me For saddle position, drop a plumb line from the front of your front knee with the cranks horizontal, should line up with the pedal spindle If you have good balance - the most efficient way to set saddle position is by pedaling without holding the bars -( like you did as a kid !! ) - the saddle needs moving in whichever direction you find yourself moving on the saddle. ( ie - slide forwards when pedaling - move seat forwards, slide backwards when pedaling - move seat backwards. ) This is probably best done on a turbo trainer with the bike completely level
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2013 18:45:51 GMT
cbrdeano, that is all the encouragement I need! I try 'no hands' a bit from time to time, as chas pointed out, my saddle is pointed a little too far nosewards, and so I felt like I was slipping forward and certainly didn't feel as comfortable as it did when I was a kid... I've made the adjustments, (apparently in Australia, damn iPhone), will test out ASAP. Handlebars feel very different - will be interested to see how the extra reach involved reflect on any need to move seat forward/back. Attachment Deleted
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Post by Radchenister on Jul 4, 2013 19:06:58 GMT
Is that supposed to be the adjustments - that cat doesn't move much?
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Post by chas on Jul 4, 2013 19:15:00 GMT
cbrdeano, that is all the encouragement I need! I try 'no hands' a bit from time to time, as chas pointed out, my saddle is pointed a little too far nosewards, and so I felt like I was slipping forward and certainly didn't feel as comfortable as it did when I was a kid... I've made the adjustments, (apparently in Australia, damn iPhone), will test out ASAP. Handlebars feel very different - will be interested to see how the extra reach involved reflect on any need to move seat forward/back. Don't move the saddle to suit the handlebars, get it right relative to the bottom bracket (you can't move that) and if the bars need moving change the stem
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Post by Radchenister on Jul 4, 2013 19:18:33 GMT
Exactly, we have put this stuff up before - should have pinned it to the top.
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Post by bazza on Jul 4, 2013 19:29:53 GMT
had the same problem when i first got my T3 a friend at work told me to loosen the bars and move them very slightly up, done that now donβt have any problems.
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Post by Radchenister on Jul 4, 2013 19:42:52 GMT
We need to be careful here as all these little tweaks are going to work together and to me that saddle now looks slightly canted back (rather than horizontal) but it may be ok - if the hips go too far back you're going to get pains in the back.
Look up bike fit videos on YouTube and get your head around it all. This guy gives you a good kick off:
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Post by Radchenister on Jul 4, 2013 19:50:39 GMT
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The bars look more like I would like them but it's you we're concerned about, I'd give them a go on that angle though.
I would tweak the nose of the saddle back down a touch (not as much as originally) - I would also ensure the fore aft position of the saddle is knee over spindle, as said previously; and check height, I did this using all sorts of techniques (found on web) to see what the differences were like.
Once you're sat on the saddle and pedals right, with your legs in the right angles and the hips comfortable (effecting the back curve also), you've got a sound base to sus other things from.
Then see if it's OK on a ride.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2013 20:08:39 GMT
Cool, all good advice, thanks all. Had a quick blast round the block and bars felt interestingly different, would like to see how I feel after a few miles on them, optimistic on that front. As for the seat, I think it's basically horizontal now, but will check tomorrow. Fore/aft adjustments to follow after that.
Thanks again.
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Post by moggym on Jul 4, 2013 20:09:00 GMT
I suffer from numbness, but I have put mine down to carpal tunnel syndrome, with I had after an altercation with some of the local constabulary's handcuffs a few years back. I had an operation for it, but to be honest has never been the same and I'm forever getting pins & needles and numbness in and out of the saddle. It does get a little tricky pulling brakes or chaninging gear when it kicks in while on the bike!
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